GM Flint Assembly Questions
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GM Flint Assembly Questions
1. How many autoracks a day are loaded now after the expansion?
2. Does the plant get switched every shift?
3. Has the number of rack trains to/from Flint increased since the expansion?
4. Is the David Rd tower still used?
2. Does the plant get switched every shift?
3. Has the number of rack trains to/from Flint increased since the expansion?
4. Is the David Rd tower still used?
Re: GM Flint Assembly Questions
Last I heard CN pulls two 30 car blocks per day which are picked up by a local from Port Huron that runs them to Battle Creek. Things may have changed, though.GTWwatcher wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:05 pm1. How many autoracks a day are loaded now after the expansion?
2. Does the plant get switched every shift?
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Re: GM Flint Assembly Questions
Hmmmm, not aware of any locals out of Port Huron besides L533
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Does L501 no longer run out of PH?
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Re: GM Flint Assembly Questions
Quick facts:
1. L533 works 6 days a week on the Mt. Clemens sub and ON THE SEVENTH DAY they run to Flint and back and also work Lapeer Industrial.
2. The Flint yard job/local R943/944 work the plant as well as the parts plant and there’s a couple of other industries.
3. A491/A492/L501 work Flint and take racks East or west as needed. L500 terminates in Flint and usually moves traffic to and from Durand.
4. GM, urgent to ship out cars faster to the east coast and CN, unwilling to short haul racks down to Toledo to interchange w CSX, allowed CSX and their autorack loading subsidiary to reopen the ramps at Buick City. Trucks are trucked over to Buick City and loaded onto racks there, hauled by LSRC to Wixom and then hauled by CSX south and east.
1. L533 works 6 days a week on the Mt. Clemens sub and ON THE SEVENTH DAY they run to Flint and back and also work Lapeer Industrial.
2. The Flint yard job/local R943/944 work the plant as well as the parts plant and there’s a couple of other industries.
3. A491/A492/L501 work Flint and take racks East or west as needed. L500 terminates in Flint and usually moves traffic to and from Durand.
4. GM, urgent to ship out cars faster to the east coast and CN, unwilling to short haul racks down to Toledo to interchange w CSX, allowed CSX and their autorack loading subsidiary to reopen the ramps at Buick City. Trucks are trucked over to Buick City and loaded onto racks there, hauled by LSRC to Wixom and then hauled by CSX south and east.
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Re: GM Flint Assembly Questions
L533 works the MTC sub 7 days a week - and on one of those days will also work west on the Flint. FCA in Mount Clemens never sleeps. With the expanded GLR business in Fraser and the lumber and drywall business in Chesterfield, it is necessary to run daily.LansingRailFan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:59 pmQuick facts:
1. L533 works 6 days a week on the Mt. Clemens sub and ON THE SEVENTH DAY they run to Flint and back and also work Lapeer Industrial.
2. The Flint yard job/local R943/944 work the plant as well as the parts plant and there’s a couple of other industries.
3. A491/A492/L501 work Flint and take racks East or west as needed. L500 terminates in Flint and usually moves traffic to and from Durand.
4. GM, urgent to ship out cars faster to the east coast and CN, unwilling to short haul racks down to Toledo to interchange w CSX, allowed CSX and their autorack loading subsidiary to reopen the ramps at Buick City. Trucks are trucked over to Buick City and loaded onto racks there, hauled by LSRC to Wixom and then hauled by CSX south and east.
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Re: GM Flint Assembly Questions
Cool. I was told it was 6/1. Good for them if they can make both at the same time! I do know that sometimes A491 or 492 has been known to work Lapeer as well, probably due to 533 not having enough time.Man o' War wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:12 pmL533 works the MTC sub 7 days a week - and on one of those days will also work west on the Flint. FCA in Mount Clemens never sleeps. With the expanded GLR business in Fraser and the lumber and drywall business in Chesterfield, it is necessary to run daily.LansingRailFan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:59 pmQuick facts:
1. L533 works 6 days a week on the Mt. Clemens sub and ON THE SEVENTH DAY they run to Flint and back and also work Lapeer Industrial.
2. The Flint yard job/local R943/944 work the plant as well as the parts plant and there’s a couple of other industries.
3. A491/A492/L501 work Flint and take racks East or west as needed. L500 terminates in Flint and usually moves traffic to and from Durand.
4. GM, urgent to ship out cars faster to the east coast and CN, unwilling to short haul racks down to Toledo to interchange w CSX, allowed CSX and their autorack loading subsidiary to reopen the ramps at Buick City. Trucks are trucked over to Buick City and loaded onto racks there, hauled by LSRC to Wixom and then hauled by CSX south and east.
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Re: GM Flint Assembly Questions
From my job on the line, I can usually see them switching autoracks and frames at least once during my shift, if that helps. It may have slowed down a little, all 3 shifts were laid off this week and 2 weeks ago only one shift was working. Lol, there aren't too many trucks shipping out right now due to a shortage of chips which leads to a shortage of ECM modules. We've got trucks all over Flint right now, including Swartz Creek and Bishop Airport.
Re: GM Flint Assembly Questions
In the Trains Magazine article it says LSRC is handling 1,000 car loads a month from Flint. This is apparently traffic CN doesn't want because they would short haul it to Toledo and hand over to CSX. That is a significant amount of traffic CN is declining on.
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Re: GM Flint Assembly Questions
I agree Don Simon.
1,000 car loads / 30 days per month = 33 loaded autoracks per day.
1,000 car loads / 30 days per month = 33 loaded autoracks per day.
Re: GM Flint Assembly Questions
From the other board
As a side note it seems autoparts, including light weight items like plastic components and stampings, are loaded into 60' hi cube box cars more than 86's.
CN receives autoparts at the giant warehouse in Swartz Creek IIRC.
I didn't recall the article saying LSRC's Buick City auto loading yard was handling inbound vehicles. But I don't think they would handle inbound autoparts but as LSRC has been at developing new business maybe they are.Posted by jim on 11/26/2021, 5:13 pm
Trains magazine's recent article about Lake State Railway stated that there are loads both in and outbound from Buick City in Flint. Would those inbound loads be auto parts traveling there in 86 foot auto parts boxcars? Anybody know?
As a side note it seems autoparts, including light weight items like plastic components and stampings, are loaded into 60' hi cube box cars more than 86's.
CN receives autoparts at the giant warehouse in Swartz Creek IIRC.
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Re: GM Flint Assembly Questions
I drove over the Dye Rd. crossing earlier this month and can confirm the Swartz Creek CCA facility is still receiving 86 footers.
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They seem to get a handful of inbound loaded autoracks a week. Mostly out of Mexico it seems.
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Thank you LRF
LansingRailFan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:30 amThey seem to get a handful of inbound loaded autoracks a week. Mostly out of Mexico it seems.
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Last time I drove by the lot across from Buick City, it looks like they're also getting a lot of vehicles from Arlington, TX. as there was a lot of full size SUVs out there.LansingRailFan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:30 amThey seem to get a handful of inbound loaded autoracks a week. Mostly out of Mexico it seems.
As for Swartz Creek, they're just a warehouse/packaging facility. It could be anything going into those 86' cars nowadays. Used to be only the big things like axles, engines, transmissions would be shipped in those but GM cut a lot of that out when "just in time" shipping came into play.
Re: GM Flint Assembly Questions
From LSRC's most recent news letter is information about their Flint Vehicle Distribution Center (VDC)
https://www.lsrc.com/wp-content/uploads ... letter.pdf
Also, an interesting article about how they are handling steel coil rod in box cars
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Also, an interesting article about how they are handling steel coil rod in box cars
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Re: GM Flint Assembly Questions
I watch several YouTube channels that show the daily LSRC train from Flint to Toledo. I have not seen any auto racks in their consist for a while. Is LSRC still handling vehicles in Flint?
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Re: GM Flint Assembly Questions
This video from Thursday shows the southbound hauling autoracks through Grand Blanc:
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Re: GM Flint Assembly Questions
They get racks when they can. It’s spotty at best. If CSX gets 200 racks a day into Michigan and potentially needs those all in New Boston, LSRC won’t get any allocated.