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https://simpleflying.com/breaking-repor ... 7-crashes/

It’s absolutely awful to hear that this happened.

For those who don’t know, this aircraft model involved (737-800) is NOT in anyway related to the 737 MAX, this aircraft was designed a generation before the MAX. This aircraft isn’t (relatively speaking) old either.

Judging by a picture that was released from security camera footage, the aircraft was at a 60 degree nose down but was in one piece, so maybe a trim runaway? I’d love to hear what the avgeeks on this website have to say.

From this link, shows it wasn't 90 degrees down, but more like 55 degrees down...still horrifying.
https://twitter.com/ChinaAvReview/statu ... xK84gvPK5w

30,000 ft to the ground in 2 minutes...

If the max wasn't related it would have to be certified as a new aircraft.
That is a point of contention with FAA oversight.

I would say intentional since the aircraft would try to prevent that.

I would say it would be very difficult to make it do that on purpose even if you wanted to. Like DaveO says the plane naturally wants to not do that. Also the 737 has very benign stall tendencies. Doesn't even have a stick pusher. Just kinda mushes and doesn't really stall or break. Ease the control column forward a few degrees and the wing is flying again. Might lose a couple of thousand feet at the higher altitudes in the thinner air. But at 29,000 feet you have a few thousand feet to work with so should not be a show stopper. Really early to speculate at this point. But something went really wrong mechanically (like the tail fell off) or it was intentional, but would be a difficult result to obtain.

Just saw some close up photos this morning on an aviation forum. Sure looks like the vertical stabilizer (tail) is missing in the nose dive video.

Can you share the photos?

Jetlink wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:29 am

Just saw some close up photos this morning on an aviation forum. Sure looks like the vertical stabilizer (tail) is missing in the nose dive video.

Starting to sound like a MX issue, if that's the case. Wild to believe something that vital would just /fall off/

Chip wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:30 pm

Can you share the photos?

I'll see if I can find them and share them. Some on the forum are now questioning the authenticity of the photo ( not surprisingly). So we shall see.

Try this link. It's a facebook group so not sure if everyone will be able to see. I'm not a member of the group and I can see it.

https://www.facebook.com/theaviatorscaf ... 495900034/

Jetlink wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:04 pm

Try this link. It's a facebook group so not sure if everyone will be able to see. I'm not a member of the group and I can see it.

https://www.facebook.com/theaviatorscaf ... 495900034/

Jetlink wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:05 pm

Jetlink wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:04 pm

Try this link. It's a facebook group so not sure if everyone will be able to see. I'm not a member of the group and I can see it.

https://www.facebook.com/theaviatorscaf ... 495900034/

The picture isn’t showing

On a computer running windows, right click and open image in new tab.
I'll save you the trouble, it's the linked facebook image.
It's presumed to be fake.
So save your posting count by not responding unless you have something to truly add.

Looks like DaveO and Jetlink are right...

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/chi ... tentional/