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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:34 pm
by LakeATCS
Pics courtesy 4mula1 on another board.

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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:31 pm
by justalurker66
LakeATCS wrote:A couple new home signals should be up at Warsaw.
Those were up last year.

Milford Jct would be new ... CP 21 would be new (If those locations have signals now).
CP 54 would be new (signals still at Claypool a couple of weeks ago).

I have pictures from Dec 5th showing Warsaw signals standing with signal heads turned.
(Although the pictures you shared show some additional work is underway.)

My last trip south was Feb 21st ... Status of signals:
CP 54 - One on the ground at CP 54, the other two in Claypool.
CP 53 - Erected and heads turned.
50 - Erected and heads turned. Signals on top of cabinet.
47 - Erected, heads covered and turned. Signals on top of cabinet.
44 - On the ground. Signals on separate mast.
41 - Erected - heads removed (new signal is next to current signal and would block view of current signal). Signals will be on top of cabinet.
38 - Erected and heads turned. Signals on top of cabinet.
CP 35 - Erected and heads turned.
Warsaw - Erected and heads turned.
CP 21 - Base and mast present for new antenna. No new signals present.
CP 19 - Erected and heads turned.
16. 14. 9. 6 - Erected and heads turned. Signals on separate masts.
Milford Jct. - Signal bases and a new cabinet present. No installation work seen.

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:56 am
by justalurker66
LakeATCS wrote:Pics courtesy 4mula1 on another board.
Posted there December 2nd.

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:22 am
by rob46580
The antenna at the new warsaw bungalow seems to be a single ptc only?

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:04 pm
by LakeATCS
rob46580 wrote:The antenna at the new warsaw bungalow seems to be a single ptc only?
You need to look at it from the crossing on the west side. It's a dual antenna stick for a Control point.

The work this spring seems to be getting the dual 220 dipole PTC antenna masts put up at all the intermediates.

This includes the new intermediates between CP 21 and Claypool. Every signal from Wabash to CP3 will have a PTC antenna.

Also Claypool is getting a new antenna with the dual antenna stick. I hope it helps with the reception. That bugger is in a hole.

It looks like they may be combining Wabash and CP 58 into one MCP. It's a strange setup right now with two MCP addresses.

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:02 pm
by justalurker66
LakeATCS wrote:Also Claypool is getting a new antenna with the dual antenna stick. I hope it helps with the reception. That bugger is in a hole.
That would be nice. A reliable reading from Claypool is #2 on my list of desired CPs (CP 423 is #1, Ligonier and east are next).

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 6:02 am
by rob46580
cp 35 may be better with the taller mast too!

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:09 pm
by BIG AMISH
Work train has been dropping ties working south from Goshen. It has been tieing down nightly at the ag plant just north of Milford Jct. It was working today just south of Milford.

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:59 pm
by justalurker66
CR 38 is the north end of the tie dropping. NS closed the road crossing today through the 18th to repave the crossing.

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:37 pm
by rob46580
tie gang arrived in new paris yesterday, the 6th, and were out somewhere today at lunch time.

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:11 pm
by justalurker66
No signal changes yet ... it must not be "spring". (Based on weekend snowfall, it isn't spring.)


An odd dispatcher decision spotted earlier today. The dispatcher routed a northbound into the siding at Leesburg and back out the other end. No occupancy was shown for the main. (The next southbound took the main.)

I saw a similar path last night but there was a southbound that arrived and cleared CP 19 on the main before the northbound arrived at CP 21 ... so the northbound had both ends of Leesburg cleared for their move by the time they got to CP 21.

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:47 pm
by LakeATCS
justalurker66 wrote:No signal changes yet ... it must not be "spring". (Based on weekend snowfall, it isn't spring.)


An odd dispatcher decision spotted earlier today. The dispatcher routed a northbound into the siding at Leesburg and back out the other end. No occupancy was shown for the main. (The next southbound took the main.)

I saw a similar path last night but there was a southbound that arrived and cleared CP 19 on the main before the northbound arrived at CP 21 ... so the northbound had both ends of Leesburg cleared for their move by the time they got to CP 21.
Sometimes the idiot dispatching software they have does that.

Othertimes is a track car, The junk on the Marion District doesn't show OOS except for the Claypool machine and CP3

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:19 pm
by rob46580
Key trains may not use leesburg siding, plus the planning of meets in Leesburg is tough due to csx and even sometimes the chicago district, other times a train will be on main nb and elkhart want the train behind it first.
Right now as I type the 2nd sb meeting 200 that was in the siding has another nb to meet so its on main and next northbound lined in and out of siding, happens a lot of times there.

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:33 pm
by justalurker66
It makes more sense when a train is on the main. Watching the NB run around an empty main the other day caught my attention.

Thanks for the note about key trains. It makes sense.

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:55 pm
by rob46580
yep, autorouters actions when they go in and out of siding for nothing, and by time someone realizes it going 10 mph thru sidings a bit faster than getting everything don to take back signal and wait for it to time out and line down main. Interesting how they have to time out even for an improved route/indication

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:58 pm
by GTW
Reading your post on the Marion Branch can someone tell me what this new 200 train is.

Thanks...

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:41 am
by LakeATCS
I am told we might be getting an NS MCP at Millford Jct to display the CSX.

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:56 am
by bjett
GTW wrote:Reading your post on the Marion Branch can someone tell me what this new 200 train is.

Thanks...
Not sure where comes from or where it goes but it is a Stack train, and the times I have seen it has been less then fifty cars.
bjett

NS 200 Muncie In. 3-16-2016 9479-2696 (32 cars)
(click photo for larger view)

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:31 pm
by rob46580
200 is a Danville,Ky to Colehour yard in nw Indiana train, previously it was Danville,Ky to Rickenbacher in Columbs,Oh

Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:15 pm
by GTW
Rob,

Thank you for the information...