Single or Double Track between AA & Dexter?
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Single or Double Track between AA & Dexter?
Does anyone know when they removed the second track on the Michigan Line west of Ann Arbor?
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Re: Single or Double Track between AA & Dexter?
It was early in the Amtrak era. Sorry I don't know a precise date but I do recall when they were pulling it and it was rather controversial at the time. Probably right after Conrail was formed in 1976 when Conrail started routing their Michigan trains largely via Toledo instead of across the State like before.
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Re: Single or Double Track between AA & Dexter?
I reviewed the Conrail track charts on multmodalways.org. The charts show the main through Ann Arbor is double track in 1984 but single track in 1988.
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This may not answer your direct question but it’s a great resource and some people may never have seen this before. It’s a time lapse of a cab ride on the entire Michigan Line westbound in 1988. An interesting time as things were being single tracked throughout much of the route, sadly. Definitely worth a watch!
https://youtu.be/mAikJc67tO4
https://youtu.be/mAikJc67tO4
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Re: Single or Double Track between AA & Dexter?
Thank you. That video is great, and I had forgotten about those track charts.
I am trying to figure out a video location in this thread http://www.railroadfan.com/phpbb/viewto ... =8&t=38676
I'm pretty sure now that the pacing shot at the end is just east of the station in Ann Arbor, so was assuming that the signals at 1:10 were east of there, but I can't see anything on the track charts that includes 2 and 3 head signals in both directions on double track.
I am trying to figure out a video location in this thread http://www.railroadfan.com/phpbb/viewto ... =8&t=38676
I'm pretty sure now that the pacing shot at the end is just east of the station in Ann Arbor, so was assuming that the signals at 1:10 were east of there, but I can't see anything on the track charts that includes 2 and 3 head signals in both directions on double track.
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Re: Single or Double Track between AA & Dexter?
Clearly not "early in the Amtrak era". Based on the video the second main from Kalamazoo to Willow Run had been recently removed from service. The second main is in place between Kalamazoo and Albion but if you look closely the switches are already in place for single tracking. I have bulletins for the second main between Kalamazoo and Battle Creek being removed from service in 1987 or 1988.
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One of my Youtube videos recently got a comment from someone stating that there are plans in place to reinstall the double track between Lawton and Niles to bridge the couple gaps created when the second main was taken out. Is there any truth to this and when could this happen if there is?
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It is true - at least a grant application is in the works to fund it. Double track would extend from Niles east to Glenwood Road. I know I’ve seen more details about this somewhere, but this article shares some of the basics: https://www.railwayage.com/passenger/ne ... s-project/MQT1223 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:19 pmOne of my Youtube videos recently got a comment from someone stating that there are plans in place to reinstall the double track between Lawton and Niles to bridge the couple gaps created when the second main was taken out. Is there any truth to this and when could this happen if there is?
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Not to stray too far off the main line topic here, but this article came out recently about the history of the two stone arch bridges on the MC in Dexter and I found it fascinating.
Then & Now: The Brilliant Young Engineer Behind Dexter’s Famous Stone Viaducts: https://thesuntimesnews.com/g/dexter-mi ... ne-viaduct
Then & Now: The Brilliant Young Engineer Behind Dexter’s Famous Stone Viaducts: https://thesuntimesnews.com/g/dexter-mi ... ne-viaduct
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I was just in Dexter last week and didn't see any arches. I assume they are over rivers?GP30M4216 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:26 pmNot to stray too far off the main line topic here, but this article came out recently about the history of the two stone arch bridges on the MC in Dexter and I found it fascinating.
Then & Now: The Brilliant Young Engineer Behind Dexter’s Famous Stone Viaducts: https://thesuntimesnews.com/g/dexter-mi ... ne-viaduct
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Re: Single or Double Track between AA & Dexter?
Cool article. The article shows both MQT1233. One over main street which is so narrow only 1 car can pass at a time and the other very close by over Mill Creek.
Re: Single or Double Track between AA & Dexter?
I think it splits those years and was 1986. I have a older friend who watched Conrail rip up the second main near Ypsilanti and "rode" on the train for a few hundred yards as they took out tracks heading westbound. I will try and confirm with him when I speak.Standard Railfan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:39 pmI reviewed the Conrail track charts on multmodalways.org. The charts show the main through Ann Arbor is double track in 1984 but single track in 1988.
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Re: Single or Double Track between AA & Dexter?
Fall of 1987 was when the second main was ripped up on the Michigan line. 1986 is when the remaining main became welded rail.
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