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Grand Rapids streetcars up for preservation....or destruction

Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 11:57 am
by GP30M4216
Many fans might know by loosely familiar with the streetcar fleet "buried in the woods" near Windber, PA. Lines of PCCs originally from Boston, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Shaker Heights, and elsewhere are now full of trees and other greenery not associated with Boston's "Green Line."
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Among the better preserved pieces among this collection are two 1910-built Grand Rapids City Railway streetcar bodies built by American Car Company that have been languishing but protected inside one of the buildings. These are likely the only 20th Century streetcars which remain from the Grand Rapids street railway system. Scrapping and demolition are potentially on the table if other arrangements cannot be made to preserve them elsewhere. The cars are GRRy 343 and 346. Here's a photo of one of them, this is the more complete of the two:
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Learn more about this equipment and the potential disposition: https://pnaerc.blogspot.com/2023/05/the ... _kPsd8q_ec

Re: Grand Rapids streetcars up for preservation....or destruction

Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 4:58 pm
by Doktor No
My grandfather was a streetcar conductor back in the day in GR. I would bet he probably rode in one of these from time to time and collected fares.

Re: Grand Rapids streetcars up for preservation....or destruction

Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 8:45 am
by NS3322
Grand Rapids Public Museum told me they are unable to take them.

Re: Grand Rapids streetcars up for preservation....or destruction

Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 12:39 pm
by MQT1223
NS3322 wrote:
Fri May 19, 2023 8:45 am
Grand Rapids Public Museum told me they are unable to take them.
Supposedly the GRPM has two cars already in long term storage, but this has been debated.

Either way, the fact that they refused two of the rarest interurban cars left in existence is sad. Maybe the Lost Railway Museum in Grass Lake would take them. They aren't rare for the builder, but for their association. Grand Rapids was the second municipality to completely ditch their streetcar network in the nation only behind San Antonio, doing so in the height of the depression in 1932.

Most of Michigan's interurbans disappeared early due to the automobile and the state's geography, so any Michigan Interurban cars are very rare today. Memorabilia is equally as scarce too.

Re: Grand Rapids streetcars up for preservation....or destruction

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:35 pm
by Rick Burn
Grand Rapids as a city was "remove everything." Streetcars gone in 1935, Union Depot in 1958, and City Hall. A wrecking ball town

Re: Grand Rapids streetcars up for preservation....or destruction

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:42 pm
by Saturnalia
Rick Burn wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:35 pm
Grand Rapids as a city was "remove everything." Streetcars gone in 1935, Union Depot in 1958, and City Hall. A wrecking ball town
As my grandfather used to say, "Urban Renewal" was usually more like "Urban Removal"