Hamilton/Allegan Abandoned ROW Q&A

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Yesterday’s adventure of exploring downtown Allegan made me trace the former PM into town, abandoned in 1979. I also got lucky and caught 702 working the Co-op as well but it left me with some questions.

First one is in Hamilton just north of the trestle over the Rabbit River. There appears to be an old foundation for a building as well as a buried spur that is sticking up out of the ground on the west side of the line. The lot is all overgrown, but looks mostly undisturbed. Anyone have a clue as to what this was? It’s between a house and the road leading down to the park that many people take photos of the trestle from on the West Side of the line.

Does anyone have any photos or track layout when the Chessie served the customer just south of the Hamilton Co-op? It appears their building is still there just south of a storage lot and the current end of Track. I also have not seen a single milepost on the Hamilton Branch, so I have no clue as to where the railroad starts on paper and where it ends.

Now Allegan:

After the PM comes in from the Northwest I know they met the NYC near the current day streets of Briggs and Depot Hill Ct. I also understand they had some trackage going into downtown as well as maybe a small stretch of street running? I’m also curious if the NYC stayed on the east side of town or had any industrial trackage with the PM in or around both sides of the Kalamazoo River? Does anyone have any photos or track diagrams? Development seems to have destroyed a lot of the PM in and around town but left the NYC for the most part intact. I’d love to find bits and pieces of the PM’s past in Allegan if there’s any buried or hidden in plain sight.

I also see zero trace of the Interurban ROW that was abandoned in the 20’s. Has anyone ever been able to detect the interurban grade anywhere between Martin and Allegan?
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In Hamilton there was an old feed mill at the north end of the trestle. It was torn down sometime in the 60's I think. Probably the cement foundation and tracks are still left over from that.
The south end of the trestle is mp13, tracks end now at approx mp12.5

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Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:27 am
I also have not seen a single milepost on the Hamilton Branch, so I have no clue as to where the railroad starts on paper and where it ends.
MP17 is in the middle of the Hamilton branch, located at Fillmore Rd:
https://railpictures.net/photo/362100/
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~Z~ wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:23 am
MQT1223 wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:27 am
I also have not seen a single milepost on the Hamilton Branch, so I have no clue as to where the railroad starts on paper and where it ends.
MP17 is in the middle of the Hamilton branch, located at Fillmore Rd:
https://railpictures.net/photo/362100/
Guess I never noticed that.
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MQT1223 wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:27 am

Now Allegan:

After the PM comes in from the Northwest I know they met the NYC near the current day streets of Briggs and Depot Hill Ct. I also understand they had some trackage going into downtown as well as maybe a small stretch of street running? I’m also curious if the NYC stayed on the east side of town or had any industrial trackage with the PM in or around both sides of the Kalamazoo River? Does anyone have any photos or track diagrams? Development seems to have destroyed a lot of the PM in and around town but left the NYC for the most part intact. I’d love to find bits and pieces of the PM’s past in Allegan if there’s any buried or hidden in plain sight.

I also see zero trace of the Interurban ROW that was abandoned in the 20’s. Has anyone ever been able to detect the interurban grade anywhere between Martin and Allegan?
This might help: http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US ... /Michigan/

As might this: https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4114am.g ... +Michigan+

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~Z~ wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:23 am
MQT1223 wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:27 am
I also have not seen a single milepost on the Hamilton Branch, so I have no clue as to where the railroad starts on paper and where it ends.
MP17 is in the middle of the Hamilton branch, located at Fillmore Rd:
https://railpictures.net/photo/362100/
Oh my those tracks are MAW quality right there

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MQT1223 wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:27 am


I also see zero trace of the Interurban ROW that was abandoned in the 20’s. Has anyone ever been able to detect the interurban grade anywhere between Martin and Allegan?
Take a look here, I believe this is the grade. Monteith Jct would be in the field if they had left the tracks intact.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5239813 ... 7475468766

I also think it can be seen here

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5295369 ... 7475468766

here

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5320849 ... 7475468766

and here

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5388857 ... 7475468766
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Standard Railfan wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:20 pm


This might help: http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US ... /Michigan/

Wow, they really did rename/realign a lot of the roads over the years.

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MQT1223 wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:27 am


Does anyone have any photos or track layout when the Chessie served the customer just south of the Hamilton Co-op? It appears their building is still there just south of a storage lot and the current end of Track. I also have not seen a single milepost on the Hamilton Branch, so I have no clue as to where the railroad starts on paper and where it ends.

I think you talking about the business just past the end of the line. It was not there when the railroad was in operation. It's only been there 15-20 years. In fact their driveway is on the old ROW. Across 134th to the south was the Pet Life dog food plant. Tracks ran right behind the building, not sure if they got cars there or not. After the tracks were pull up they expanded their building and built a warehouse on the old ROW.

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Oh my those tracks are MAW quality right there
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If you have seen the MAW in person like I have, I can tell you that these don't even come close to the severity of the condition of those tracks. This would look like 70mph track compared to what those guys are used to down there.
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Standard Railfan wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:20 pm


This might help: http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US ... /Michigan/

Wow, they really did rename/realign a lot of the roads over the years.
Yeah no kidding. I wonder if that's due to Allegan shrinking over the years.
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Tankcar123 wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:12 am
MQT1223 wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:27 am


Does anyone have any photos or track layout when the Chessie served the customer just south of the Hamilton Co-op? It appears their building is still there just south of a storage lot and the current end of Track. I also have not seen a single milepost on the Hamilton Branch, so I have no clue as to where the railroad starts on paper and where it ends.

I think you talking about the business just past the end of the line. It was not there when the railroad was in operation. It's only been there 15-20 years. In fact their driveway is on the old ROW. Across 134th to the south was the Pet Life dog food plant. Tracks ran right behind the building, not sure if they got cars there or not. After the tracks were pull up they expanded their building and built a warehouse on the old ROW.
From what I've read and discussed with other individuals, there was at one point a second shipper in Hamilton after the line was pulled back from Allegan and when they stopped shipping the line was pulled again back to its current terminus. I could be wrong but that was my understanding.
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Jim_c wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:55 pm
MQT1223 wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:27 am


I also see zero trace of the Interurban ROW that was abandoned in the 20’s. Has anyone ever been able to detect the interurban grade anywhere between Martin and Allegan?
Take a look here, I believe this is the grade. Monteith Jct would be in the field if they had left the tracks intact.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5239813 ... 7475468766

I also think it can be seen here

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5295369 ... 7475468766

here

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5320849 ... 7475468766

and here

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5388857 ... 7475468766
Amazing how before I saw this post, the old Sanborn map made finding the diamond easier and thus the ROW. I was able to trace it to almost the junction. Didn't Montieth Junction have a tower and flagstop at one point? Did that also include where it crossed the GR&I?
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MQT1223 wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:27 am
Amazing how before I saw this post, the old Sanborn map made finding the diamond easier and thus the ROW. I was able to trace it to almost the junction. Didn't Montieth Junction have a tower and flagstop at one point? Did that also include where it crossed the GR&I?
As this map shows, there was not only a station, but also a connecting track. Once you know where the connector was, you might wonder if the trees visible on Google Maps or Google Earth show the arc made by the connector.

http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/ ... /Michigan/
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Hey guys. I just started looking at historicmapworks.com and WOW that is GREAT!!!

I saw railroads not too far from where I grew up South of Battle Creek that I never knew existed in the 1890s!!

Thanks for sharing that link.

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Jim_c wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:55 pm
MQT1223 wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:27 am
Amazing how before I saw this post, the old Sanborn map made finding the diamond easier and thus the ROW. I was able to trace it to almost the junction. Didn't Montieth Junction have a tower and flagstop at one point? Did that also include where it crossed the GR&I?
As this map shows, there was not only a station, but also a connecting track. Once you know where the connector was, you might wonder if the trees visible on Google Maps or Google Earth show the arc made by the connector.

http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/ ... /Michigan/
Looking into this, it does infact show where the ROWs would have crossed and where the connector was on Maps. For reference try looking here: 42.52080707812199, -85.62862165816334
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