Wigwags in Michigan

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GP30M4216 wrote:The GTW did like wig wags, but the one in the park in Grand Haven is off the C&O/PM:
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Summary: Model 5 Autoflag Wig Wag Signal. This signal was installed at the Pennoyer Street crossing in Grand Haven in the 1920s by the Pere Marquette Railroad. It was replaced by more modern signals in 1978. The signal is now electronically activated and operates for one minute on the hour between 9am and 9pm, Memorial Day through Labor Day.

Has anyone ever seen this one-minute activation take place?
That sign is old and out of date. Apparently people got tired of listening to it ring day in and day out. The only time that signal operates is during an open house on every hour if I recall. The 1223 historical society got the thing working again about 2 or 3 years ago. I have footage of it in operation.
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Re: Wigwags in Michigan

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From an old pic in Model Railroader, there used to be one in Pinconning, on the D&M.

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Another Michigan example was found on the old LS&MS line south of Hillsdale, at the Long Lake Road crossing between Reading the Frog Eye. The southbound road comes over the crest of a hill and the angle of the track is such that a wig wag was placed at the crossing to catch the attention of a speeding southward motorist. It was replaced some time ago with the modern lights and crossbuck setup which exists today, but the wig wag was preserved and is located on the property of the Indiana Northeastern Railroad division office in Hillsdale. I've never been able to find a photo of this one in-situ at the Long Lake crossing, but I've heard from several people that this is where it came from. I'm not sure who the maker of this installation was.
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A friend sent me this photo of the Long Lake Road wig wag in action in its original location south of Reading on the old LS&MS/NYC. This is the one that's now installed beside the INER offices in Hillsdale. It clearly a different model and design than the other ones so far pictured in this thread, a US&S DW model. I don't know the photographer, but I'd be happy to update this post if someone can tell me who to give credit to!
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Here are a couple shots I took just a few weeks ago of the WRRS Autoflag at the entrance to Greenfield Village. I believe the signalling equipment here all came off the GTW, so I would expect that might be the origin of this setup, but I don't know its exact history. The teardrop bell sets it off nicely and it's a great treat to see it swinging when you first arrive.
Thinking about other oddball crossing protection. Did Michigan ever have any of the Griswold flashers that had the rotating STOP sign in the middle?
A Griswold rotating signal was recently installed on the Greenfield Village loop, near the Firestone Farm/Cider Mill crossing. It's kind of an odd setup on a curve, but it's cool to see it in action. I don't know where this equipment originally came from, Griswold's were not common in Michigan.
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Re: Wigwags in Michigan

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Here are some shots of the Griswold in the village. The angle is funky but it is a neat addition!
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There was a wigwag on the AA in Azalia, still operating in 1980. Timestamp is 28:56.

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I just became aware that the wig wag signal which was once at Sterling, Michigan on the former NYC has been restored, and is in operable condition behind the headquarters building for the Lake State Railway in Saginaw. The caption claims it was removed from Sterling in 2006 but that can't be right, maybe 1996?
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/658520/

Does anyone have a photo of it in the daytime? It's great to see this piece of history live on!

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A shot I took while chasing the inaugural run of Amtrak's Pere Marquette in August, 1984- Amtrak business #10000 bringing up the rear past the wigwag signal at Baldwin Street in Jenison.

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I also like the yellow "Michigan style" crossbucks with the glass reflectors and mounted on a hunk of rail with the railroad identification stenciled on it -- "PM" no less!

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There was a wigwag on the C&O in Portland well into the 70's. It guarded the crossing of Divine Highway.

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Re: Wigwags in Michigan

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geeb557 wrote:
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There was a wigwag on the C&O in Portland well into the 70's. It guarded the crossing of Divine Highway.
I can confirm this. I saw it operating at least once for a train. May have actually survived into the early 80's .
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At a minimum, I tend to check out the Isbell Street wig wag every year in the fall, before the landscape gets totally barren but after the leaves fall off the tree which is slowly consuming it during the summer months. :lol: Here's this year's installment. The line was used recently to bring some heavy equipment out of Reid Machinery at the end of the track, but the last regular customer (QD bottling) has been closed for some time now; and this line recently had storage cars parked on it further north until earlier this year. Till the next train rolls by, the remaining bell waits in silence. The trash is pretty bad this year, too. :|
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On October 3, I rode the Little River Railroad Hillsdale Flyer excursion, roundtrip between Coldwater and Hillsdale. It was neat to come into Hillsdale, all the way up to the old LS&MS depot and the Lansing Division office, today the headquarters for the Indiana Northeastern. In front of the office is the US&S Type DW wig wag that was once at Long Lake Road, between Reading and Frog Eye. The stopped train at the brick platform while 4-6-2 #110 ran around the train afforded a great opportunity to capture some photos of the wig wag. Stop when swinging!
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On October 3, I rode the Little River Railroad Hillsdale Flyer excursion, roundtrip between Coldwater and Hillsdale. It was neat to come into Hillsdale, all the way up to the old LS&MS depot and the Lansing Division office, today the headquarters for the Indiana Northeastern. In front of the office is the US&S Type DW wig wag that was once at Long Lake Road, between Reading and Frog Eye. The stopped train at the brick platform while 4-6-2 #110 ran around the train afforded a great opportunity to capture some photos of the wig wag. Stop when swinging!

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I filmed the train approaching the platform with this wigwag definitely being a focus. I see the banner has been used for target practice at some point.
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At a minimum, I tend to check out the Isbell Street wig wag every year in the fall, before the landscape gets totally barren but after the leaves fall off the tree which is slowly consuming it during the summer months. :lol: Here's this year's installment. The line was used recently to bring some heavy equipment out of Reid Machinery at the end of the track, but the last regular customer (QD bottling) has been closed for some time now; and this line recently had storage cars parked on it further north until earlier this year. Till the next train rolls by, the remaining bell waits in silence. The trash is pretty bad this year, too. :|

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The bell still works? Kinda surprised that the signal hasn't been removed for the sake of maintaining the electrical here.
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The bell still works? Kinda surprised that the signal hasn't been removed for the sake of maintaining the electrical here.
I thought someone who had seen one of the JAIL moves to Reid Machinery down that branch had said they thought they bell had been ringing....weakly. Maybe I read that on facebook. Anyhow, this youtube video I just found suggests the bell at Isbell does not in fact work, and, as you suggest, the circuitry is out of service as this now passive crossing.

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GP30M4216 wrote:
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The bell still works? Kinda surprised that the signal hasn't been removed for the sake of maintaining the electrical here.
I thought someone who had seen one of the JAIL moves to Reid Machinery down that branch had said they thought they bell had been ringing....weakly. Maybe I read that on facebook. Anyhow, this youtube video I just found suggests the bell at Isbell does not in fact work, and, as you suggest, the circuitry is out of service as this now passive crossing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9a2yQs5L3o
I thought that thing was gutted and the only thing remaining of it is the frame.
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Sunny skies in Lansing today meant time for my annual check in at the Isbell Street crossing wig wag frame. I chose not to move the bag of leaves someone put out, it feels like part of the season!
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From the what it’s worth department I do believe the interurban railway GR H & C utilized wigwag signals in the city of Zeeland. I have a picture (dated 1918) which shows the signal.
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From the what it’s worth department I do believe the interurban railway GR H & C utilized wigwag signals in the city of Zeeland. I have a picture (dated 1918) which shows the signal.
Wow. That's an early setup if that's the case. Can we ID the location?
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MQT1223 wrote:
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Wow. That's an early setup if that's the case. Can we ID the location?
If I had to guess it would be taken at the grade crossing on N. Colonial St. looking north west.

Note: If you look closely at the picture right behind the interurban car there is a automobile waiting at the grade crossing.

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