Forest roads destroyed? Dual wheel tracks in the sand?? Oh, the humanity!hoborich wrote: Not to mention how they destroy the forest roads with their heavy equipment. Notice the dual wheel tracks in the soft sand.
Build another one.
Forest roads destroyed? Dual wheel tracks in the sand?? Oh, the humanity!hoborich wrote: Not to mention how they destroy the forest roads with their heavy equipment. Notice the dual wheel tracks in the soft sand.
That's because both the OSB plant at Grayling and the soon to be open "Worlds Largest Particle Board plant at Gaylord are both in the lower penninsula. And it is unlawful to move wood from the upper to the lower penninsulas and vice versa, to prevent the spread of several tree diseases. So........both of those plants are and will be drawing their lumber from the surrounding area of the lower penninsula, starting with the nearest forests to the Grayling area and working outward, to save hauling costs!Saturnalia wrote:
Nice propaganda. Michigan does a world-class job at managing our forests. Tourism in the UP is NOT taking a "big hit" at all. The DNR strategically logs state-owned land, which actually helps the forest.
#AmoebaLivesMatterSousaKerry wrote:Oh and make sure to invest in those zero gee tires so you don't crush any endangered soil bacteria with your tires.
Yeah, because it's not like logging hadn't cleared a bunch of land 100-200 years ago already in this state (only to be replaced by <gasp!> more trees).hoborich wrote:I don't lose any oil or gas. And I'm not a tree hugger or Sierra clubber. The photos pretty much speak for themselves. And all the local and county officials are in agreement that the logging is excessive. No one is against logging. But it is out of control in the northern lower penninsula. And the worst is yet to come.
I do know trees are a renewable resource. But I and most other people don't have 100 to 200 years left!Yeah, because it's not like logging hadn't cleared a bunch of land 100-200 years ago already in this state (only to be replaced by <gasp!> more trees).
The trees are here for the life of this earth, not yours.hoborich wrote:I do know trees are a renewable resource. But I and most other people don't have 100 to 200 years left!Yeah, because it's not like logging hadn't cleared a bunch of land 100-200 years ago already in this state (only to be replaced by <gasp!> more trees).
I did not check your calculations but you seem to be in the ballpark.AARR wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:10 pmI'd appreciate someone double checking my math. ARAUCO North America announced plans to build a new particleboard mill located in Grayling, Michigan, to produce 424 million ft2 (750,000m3) on 3/4" basis: 452 million ft2 / 32 (4x8) x (60.8x1.5) lbs. (taken from below charts) / 2000 = 646,218.75 tons per year.
But..but...all those workers were dead long before the trees grew back and they were never able to appreciate them! /sGarry K wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:13 pmYes, forests are a renewable resource. If a lumber company "clear cuts" a forest, they will replant seedlings so the company can harvest a future crop of trees. I also always like to mention to folks that think we shouldn't cut down trees that they shouldn't live in a house or an apartment that was built of wood!
I have vacationed a LOT in the Upper Peninsula, particularly in the Keweenaw. If you look at old pictures from when the copper mines were going in the 1800s, it is sometimes hard to see any trees. The trees were all cut down to build houses for the workers and to shore up the mine shafts. But if you visit some of those same spots today, there are so many trees that you sometimes can hardly find the old stone foundations from mine buildings.
Thank you, Standard Railfan.Standard Railfan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:17 amI did not check your calculations but you seem to be in the ballpark.