Amtrak through Dexter

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Amtrak through Dexter

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I have noticed a couple times recently Amtrak has been running trains on the Michigan line with locomotives on both ends. I have not seen this in several years since they stopped using the cabbage car.

Today, through Dexter about 12:35 Amtrak came EB with what appeared to be 4610 leading, about 6 cars or so, and 4601 on the tail end. When and more importantly why did they go back to this process? It makes since if you have the equipment, so you don't have to turn power at Pontiac or Chicago.

Also, I noticed the same thing with the signal I have mentioned before.

For an EB Amtrak (didn't notice it with NS trains), the signal just west of Dexter will show red (for WB movements) as would be expected when an EB train is in the blocks approaching the signal. When the train passes the signal it would appear it should go green as the block is now clear, and for NS trains I recall that happening. Today's Amtrak did not change the signal from red to green until the train was at least at the crossings on the east side of Dexter, if not a bit farther. Any idea why?

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Re: Amtrak through Dexter

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Was told that some in-the-field testing is happening with one of those locos.....not sure what is being tested though (us mere operating employees wear mushroom hats)

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Re: Amtrak through Dexter

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Buster Manning wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 2:25 pm
Was told that some in-the-field testing is happening with one of those locos.....not sure what is being tested though (us mere operating employees wear mushroom hats)
Heard its the 2 and updated cummings engine that was installed by Siemens. It involves twin turbos to allow much needed acceleration to allow then to shave time off the schedule. The fuel source? You dont wanna know. Feel sorry for the engineer that took the unit out yesterday. :)

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coasterrider wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:18 pm
The fuel source? You dont wanna know. Feel sorry for the engineer that took the unit out yesterday. :)
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chapmaja wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:48 pm
I have noticed a couple times recently Amtrak has been running trains on the Michigan line with locomotives on both ends. I have not seen this in several years since they stopped using the cabbage car.
Is the end loco running, maybe by radio control?
coasterrider wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:18 pm
The fuel source? You dont wanna know. Feel sorry for the engineer that took the unit out yesterday. :)
What fuel they run on should be talk able. Human waste can be turned into fuel but I doubt they can make enough.

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Re: Amtrak through Dexter

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James Sofonia wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:42 am
chapmaja wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:48 pm
I have noticed a couple times recently Amtrak has been running trains on the Michigan line with locomotives on both ends. I have not seen this in several years since they stopped using the cabbage car.
Is the end loco running, maybe by radio control?
coasterrider wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:18 pm
The fuel source? You dont wanna know. Feel sorry for the engineer that took the unit out yesterday. :)
What fuel they run on should be talk able. Human waste can be turned into fuel but I doubt they can make enough.
The rear-end units I believe are controlled by cables that run through each coach, directly connecting them via MU, versus being radio controlled DPU.
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Re: Amtrak through Dexter

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Amtrak 350 just came through Dexter. As has been happening recently, power on both ends. Different this time was a Charger 4125 I think, on the lead end, and a P42DC #55, on the tail end. Is this due to reliability issues with the Chargers this winter?

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Saturnalia wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:07 pm
James Sofonia wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:42 am
chapmaja wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:48 pm
I have noticed a couple times recently Amtrak has been running trains on the Michigan line with locomotives on both ends. I have not seen this in several years since they stopped using the cabbage car.
Is the end loco running, maybe by radio control?
coasterrider wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:18 pm
The fuel source? You dont wanna know. Feel sorry for the engineer that took the unit out yesterday. :)
What fuel they run on should be talk able. Human waste can be turned into fuel but I doubt they can make enough.
The rear-end units I believe are controlled by cables that run through each coach, directly connecting them via MU, versus being radio controlled DPU.
Correct, units at the other end are controlled via MU cables that travel the length of the train. Amtrak does not have any DPU equipped engines.
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