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Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:10 am
by NS3322
LansingRailFan wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:05 pm
NS3322 wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:55 pm
LansingRailFan wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:53 pm
Where did you see that 1758/1760 are for sale?
I thought that was implied with the Railmover listing... "Blue carded and in service EMD GP-9s with alignment couplers"

1751 is the only unit for sale?
Seems to be the only one listed right?

I think 1758 is staying with some “modifications” to it. I think 1751/1760 both going south of the border.
The listing does say GP-9s...not GP-9, implying there are more than one for sale, which is slightly confusing. Appreciate the info though!

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 6:25 am
by LansingRailFan
NS3322 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:10 am
LansingRailFan wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:05 pm
NS3322 wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:55 pm


I thought that was implied with the Railmover listing... "Blue carded and in service EMD GP-9s with alignment couplers"

1751 is the only unit for sale?
Seems to be the only one listed right?

I think 1758 is staying with some “modifications” to it. I think 1751/1760 both going south of the border.
The listing does say GP-9s...not GP-9, implying there are more than one for sale, which is slightly confusing. Appreciate the info though!
I emailed the website. They are all listed. All five.

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:04 am
by chapmaja
NS3322 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:10 am
LansingRailFan wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:05 pm
NS3322 wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:55 pm


I thought that was implied with the Railmover listing... "Blue carded and in service EMD GP-9s with alignment couplers"

1751 is the only unit for sale?
Seems to be the only one listed right?

I think 1758 is staying with some “modifications” to it. I think 1751/1760 both going south of the border.
The listing does say GP-9s...not GP-9, implying there are more than one for sale, which is slightly confusing. Appreciate the info though!
I agree it does seem confusing considering all pictures are of 1751. I think it would be better if they listed all of the locootives seperately, or indicated the unit numbers within the Ad, but its thier business so they can do it how they want to.

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:48 am
by NoviRailfan
Can't imagine there's much of a market for these units unless some tourist/museum line was looking for a unit with a specific heritage.

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:00 am
by GP30M4216
Suppose all of the GP9s sell. JAIL has their two red and white EMDs, but what power is there in Adrian to take over the A&B line operations?

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:08 am
by LansingRailFan
GP30M4216 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:00 am
Suppose all of the GP9s sell. JAIL has their two red and white EMDs, but what power is there in Adrian to take over the A&B line operations?
They are shopping for more power.

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:18 pm
by joeyuboats
From what I have heard from railroaders, and what I have read in these pages and other RR publications--- these units may be old,and non- tech, but---that may be a selling point to certain RR that don't need/ want high-tech units. They are way easier to diagnose, and repair.

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:08 pm
by MQT1223
LansingRailFan wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:08 am
GP30M4216 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:00 am
Suppose all of the GP9s sell. JAIL has their two red and white EMDs, but what power is there in Adrian to take over the A&B line operations?
They are shopping for more power.
A source of mine told me that ALLEGEDLY (key word) they got those straight GP40's Lake State was selling, but I'm not sure if that's true or not.

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:16 am
by GrandTrunkFan
I asked in the Adrian and Blissfield railroad Facebook group but didnt get a response. I noticed on Google Maps there appears to be a new transload operation at Saginaw Yard now. Where the old yard offices were located, there looks like two propane tanks as well as a trio of tank car loading racks. The old RIP track that had the Conrail boxcar for many years looks like it has fresh ballast. What moved into that location and when?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/sjrkxh1owtCkjqHc7

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:10 pm
by LansingRailFan
GrandTrunkFan wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:16 am
I asked in the Adrian and Blissfield railroad Facebook group but didnt get a response. I noticed on Google Maps there appears to be a new transload operation at Saginaw Yard now. Where the old yard offices were located, there looks like two propane tanks as well as a trio of tank car loading racks. The old RIP track that had the Conrail boxcar for many years looks like it has fresh ballast. What moved into that location and when?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/sjrkxh1owtCkjqHc7
LPG transload. Been online for 3-4 months now.

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:57 pm
by NS3322
ADBF GP9 1751 departed Jackson on 1/3/24. Reportedly this unit was sold to a gravel quarry in San Luis Potosí, Mexico.

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:07 pm
by chapmaja
NS3322 wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:57 pm
ADBF GP9 1751 departed Jackson on 1/3/24. Reportedly this unit was sold to a gravel quarry in San Luis Potosí, Mexico.
I think this is a good job for old and tired 70 year plus old power. Stable location pulling what is likely a limited amount of traffic for a business that may have limited resources to maintain a locomotive meaning a higher tech unit would be unlikely to do well.

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:55 pm
by LansingRailFan
Charlotte Southern video of part of the dinner train being shoved to interchange with CN:

https://youtu.be/IVpMq2LbyvY?si=7w8ihHgPJUrJyQfM

FYI as of 01/29/2024 - the City of Charlotte has added EXEMPT signs to all of the ADBF crossings in town. Unknown about the crossings out of town.

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:29 pm
by AARR
I heard ADBF has a couple new engines, a pair of SD40's. Can someone confirm that?

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:26 pm
by LansingRailFan
AARR wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:29 pm
I heard ADBF has a couple new engines, a pair of SD40's. Can someone confirm that?
They’ve reached an agreement to purchase four GP40s from LSRC. 1162, 1164, 1171 and 1174

https://railroadfan.com/wiki/index.php/ ... ive_Roster

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:54 pm
by chapmaja
LansingRailFan wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:26 pm
AARR wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:29 pm
I heard ADBF has a couple new engines, a pair of SD40's. Can someone confirm that?
They’ve reached an agreement to purchase four GP40s from LSRC. 1162, 1164, 1171 and 1174

https://railroadfan.com/wiki/index.php/ ... ive_Roster
Why are they also buying the parts source unit? Was it part of the package deal, or are their issues with the other locomotives that require all the parts to be brought with the units in order to keep them operational / get them operational?

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:18 am
by AARR
Thank you LRF
LansingRailFan wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:26 pm
AARR wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:29 pm
I heard ADBF has a couple new engines, a pair of SD40's. Can someone confirm that?
They’ve reached an agreement to purchase four GP40s from LSRC. 1162, 1164, 1171 and 1174

https://railroadfan.com/wiki/index.php/ ... ive_Roster

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:21 am
by joeyuboats
I take it that LSRC either does not need these units, or they are surplus, or. ????

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:28 am
by Chip
chapmaja wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:54 pm
LansingRailFan wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:26 pm
AARR wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:29 pm
I heard ADBF has a couple new engines, a pair of SD40's. Can someone confirm that?
They’ve reached an agreement to purchase four GP40s from LSRC. 1162, 1164, 1171 and 1174

https://railroadfan.com/wiki/index.php/ ... ive_Roster
Why are they also buying the parts source unit? Was it part of the package deal, or are their issues with the other locomotives that require all the parts to be brought with the units in order to keep them operational / get them operational?
I would guess it’s because ADBF doesn’t really have a good parts source for GP40s and now they have 4 of them.

Re: ADBF/JAIL Changes Made Under New Ownership

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:02 am
by 1TrackMind
LansingRailFan wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:26 pm
AARR wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:29 pm
I heard ADBF has a couple new engines, a pair of SD40's. Can someone confirm that?
They’ve reached an agreement to purchase four GP40s from LSRC. 1162, 1164, 1171 and 1174

https://railroadfan.com/wiki/index.php/ ... ive_Roster
Wonder where they will end up. They wont fit in the engine house in adrian.