Michigan Cabooses
Michigan Cabooses
Hi,
There's a wood, cupola, caboose at the Brimley Railroad Museum that I think is a GTW car. Is it? Number?
There's a wood, cupola, GTW 77000 series caboose at Bahlau's Golden Nugget Restaurant, 7203 US 12, Sand Lake, Irish Hills, Cambridge Township. Anyone know the number?
Also in Cambridge Twp., there's a wood, cupola, caboose at the Stagecoach Stop Amusement Park, US 12, Sand Lake, Irish Hills, reported as GTW? and as NYC? Which is correct? Number?
Thanks, Roger
P.S. This is THE Michigan caboose thread, please park your caboose questions and answers here!
There's a wood, cupola, caboose at the Brimley Railroad Museum that I think is a GTW car. Is it? Number?
There's a wood, cupola, GTW 77000 series caboose at Bahlau's Golden Nugget Restaurant, 7203 US 12, Sand Lake, Irish Hills, Cambridge Township. Anyone know the number?
Also in Cambridge Twp., there's a wood, cupola, caboose at the Stagecoach Stop Amusement Park, US 12, Sand Lake, Irish Hills, reported as GTW? and as NYC? Which is correct? Number?
Thanks, Roger
P.S. This is THE Michigan caboose thread, please park your caboose questions and answers here!
S. Roger Kirkpatrick, 731 6th St., Marietta, OH 45750
U. P. Michigan Cabooses
*** The caboose was stored in Negaunee, Michigan, and was moved to Chasssell, Michigan! ***
Hi,
Steel, cupola, NP 1136/10136/BN 10297 is reported as "David Pulse, 39105 Fishermans Lane, Chassell, MI", & as "CR 480, east of Negaunee, MI".
The double listing could be a relocation of the same caboose or an error in one of the numbers due to the publication of an erroneous cross reference for this 1962 series of NP to BN cabooses in Del Grosso, Rbt. C, 1993, Burlington Northern Caboose Book: Bonners Ferry, ID, Great Northern Pacific Pubs., p. 35.
Does anyone know if there are NP/BN cabooses at both locations and the BN number of one or both of the cabooses?
Thanks, Roger
Hi,
Steel, cupola, NP 1136/10136/BN 10297 is reported as "David Pulse, 39105 Fishermans Lane, Chassell, MI", & as "CR 480, east of Negaunee, MI".
The double listing could be a relocation of the same caboose or an error in one of the numbers due to the publication of an erroneous cross reference for this 1962 series of NP to BN cabooses in Del Grosso, Rbt. C, 1993, Burlington Northern Caboose Book: Bonners Ferry, ID, Great Northern Pacific Pubs., p. 35.
Does anyone know if there are NP/BN cabooses at both locations and the BN number of one or both of the cabooses?
Thanks, Roger
S. Roger Kirkpatrick, 731 6th St., Marietta, OH 45750
Caro, MI, caboose?
Hi,
There's a wood, cupola, caboose with no trucks that is/was for sale "somewhere in/near Caro, MI". The caboose was said to have come to Caro "from the Dakotas".
Has anyone seen or heard of this caboose? Is it still in Caro? If yes, what is the address? If not, where did it go?
Cheers, Roger
There's a wood, cupola, caboose with no trucks that is/was for sale "somewhere in/near Caro, MI". The caboose was said to have come to Caro "from the Dakotas".
Has anyone seen or heard of this caboose? Is it still in Caro? If yes, what is the address? If not, where did it go?
Cheers, Roger
S. Roger Kirkpatrick, 731 6th St., Marietta, OH 45750
Coloma, MI, Caboose
Hi,
Wood, cupola, B&O C2278 caboose moved from Texas Corners, MI, to Coloma, MI, over 15 years ago and was resold and moved again about 5 years ago.
Where did B&O C2278 move to?
Thanks, Roger
Wood, cupola, B&O C2278 caboose moved from Texas Corners, MI, to Coloma, MI, over 15 years ago and was resold and moved again about 5 years ago.
Where did B&O C2278 move to?
Thanks, Roger
S. Roger Kirkpatrick, 731 6th St., Marietta, OH 45750
Coopersville, MI, Cabooses
Hi,
Wood, cupola, GTW 77963 and steel, bay window, NS X381?/SOU 910808 MWM cabooses, Coopersville, MI, have been listed as for sale for 4 or 5 years.
Are they still for sale in Coopersville or have they been sold and moved?
Thanks, Roger
Wood, cupola, GTW 77963 and steel, bay window, NS X381?/SOU 910808 MWM cabooses, Coopersville, MI, have been listed as for sale for 4 or 5 years.
Are they still for sale in Coopersville or have they been sold and moved?
Thanks, Roger
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Re: Michigan Cabooses
To my knowledge SOU 910808 is not for sale, that's our "office" if you will. I believe GTW 77963 is privately owned and stored back in the old Delphi plant so I can't say if it's for sale or not.
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Crystal Falls, MI, Caboose?
Hi,
Wood, bay window, CNW? #? to MILW? #? caboose with no trucks is "for sale somewhere in or near Crystal Falls, MI".
What is the railroad, road number, and location of this mystery caboose?
Thanks, Roger
P.S. - It has been called to my attention that the caboose in question below *might* be in the Crystal Falls, MN, area. Does anyone know?
Wood, bay window, CNW? #? to MILW? #? caboose with no trucks is "for sale somewhere in or near Crystal Falls, MI".
What is the railroad, road number, and location of this mystery caboose?
Thanks, Roger
P.S. - It has been called to my attention that the caboose in question below *might* be in the Crystal Falls, MN, area. Does anyone know?
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S. Roger Kirkpatrick, 731 6th St., Marietta, OH 45750
Re: Michigan Cabooses
Conrail Jon said, "To my knowledge SOU 910808 is not for sale."
Hi,
Along with not being for sale, there is another problem or two with the report on this caboose.
NS 381, no X, would be a steel, bay window, built from a boxcar, caboose from the old Norfolk Southern:
http://www.norfolksouthernhs.org/images ... kNS-TL.jpg and the SOU 910808 was, in fact, the former
NS 381 bay window car with one or both bays replaced by a side door .
Clearly, the Coopersville car is a more modern Southern caboose with a bay window, not a side door, at least on one
side: http://www.railroadmichigan.com/cm012.jpg .
So, the Coopersville caboose in neither the NS 381 nor the 910808! One reporter said it was SOU 910804 but I lean
toward that not being correct either!
Does anyone have any better idea of the former number(s) of this ugly duckling?
Thanks, Roger
Hi,
Along with not being for sale, there is another problem or two with the report on this caboose.
NS 381, no X, would be a steel, bay window, built from a boxcar, caboose from the old Norfolk Southern:
http://www.norfolksouthernhs.org/images ... kNS-TL.jpg and the SOU 910808 was, in fact, the former
NS 381 bay window car with one or both bays replaced by a side door .
Clearly, the Coopersville car is a more modern Southern caboose with a bay window, not a side door, at least on one
side: http://www.railroadmichigan.com/cm012.jpg .
So, the Coopersville caboose in neither the NS 381 nor the 910808! One reporter said it was SOU 910804 but I lean
toward that not being correct either!
Does anyone have any better idea of the former number(s) of this ugly duckling?
Thanks, Roger
S. Roger Kirkpatrick, 731 6th St., Marietta, OH 45750
Michigan Caboose
Hi,
Actually, there's the possibility that the Southern bay window caboose at Coopersville could be 910808 (2nd), replacing the old NS 381/910808 MWM.
Are there photos of the car at Coopersville as SOU 910808?
Roger
Actually, there's the possibility that the Southern bay window caboose at Coopersville could be 910808 (2nd), replacing the old NS 381/910808 MWM.
Are there photos of the car at Coopersville as SOU 910808?
Roger
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Re: Michigan Cabooses
There should be some photos out there. Maybe Robby's scrapbook. It was named for EG KIng. It appeared to be assigned to the Engineering Department. It had a "motion table" whch appered to have been connected to monitring equipment and recording apparatus which I assumed was for slack action research.caboose9 wrote:Hi,
Actually, there's the possibility that the Southern bay window caboose at Coopersville could be 910808 (2nd), replacing the old NS 381/910808 MWM.
Are there photos of the car at Coopersville as SOU 910808?
Roger
Re: Michigan Cabooses
Years ago, I got the NS to donate a that caboose and flatcar to the Coopersville & Marne. The caboose was used for testing as raildudesdad said and had a generator in one part. I can't recall the number on it. But I worked with the NS, Conrail, and GRE to route and waybill it. Seems to me we had to pay Conrail $400 for their portion of the move. I might still have a copy of the donation papers at home someplace. That was about 18 years ago......
Evart, MI, Cabooses
Hi,
Springhill Camp, Evart, has nine wood, cupola, cabooses used as bunkhouses:
C&O/PM? #?;
C&O/PM? #?;
GTW 77905;
GTW 77916;
GTW 77917;
GTW 77930;
GTW 77948;
GTW 77953; &
RR? #?.
Can anyone ID the 3 mystery cabooses?
Thanks, Roger
Springhill Camp, Evart, has nine wood, cupola, cabooses used as bunkhouses:
C&O/PM? #?;
C&O/PM? #?;
GTW 77905;
GTW 77916;
GTW 77917;
GTW 77930;
GTW 77948;
GTW 77953; &
RR? #?.
Can anyone ID the 3 mystery cabooses?
Thanks, Roger
S. Roger Kirkpatrick, 731 6th St., Marietta, OH 45750
Fremont, MI, Caboose?
Hi,
Wood, cupola?, GTW 77xxx caboose was reported as "owned by the Vandenbergs, Fremont, MI".
Has anyone seen this car? If so, does it have a cupola and what is the address? Road number?
Thanks, Roger
Wood, cupola?, GTW 77xxx caboose was reported as "owned by the Vandenbergs, Fremont, MI".
Has anyone seen this car? If so, does it have a cupola and what is the address? Road number?
Thanks, Roger
S. Roger Kirkpatrick, 731 6th St., Marietta, OH 45750
Re: Michigan Cabooses
There's a caboose, wood, cupola, painted as "Train City USA" in Bangor, MI.
There's a steel caboose at the Depot restaurant in Grant, MI that used to be orange, but I believe it is now in Chessie Paint.
There's a steel caboose at the Depot restaurant in Grant, MI that used to be orange, but I believe it is now in Chessie Paint.
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Re: Michigan Cabooses
Bangor - B&O C2187.
Grant - C&O 90680, built by C&O in 1924, converted to a steel car by C&O in 1956. A rare car as one of four wood cabooses converted to steel cabooses by C&O of which two are preserved. The other is C&O 90665 which was converted to a steel, wide vision cupola, caboose in 1959 and is preserved in Huntington, WV.
Grant - C&O 90680, built by C&O in 1924, converted to a steel car by C&O in 1956. A rare car as one of four wood cabooses converted to steel cabooses by C&O of which two are preserved. The other is C&O 90665 which was converted to a steel, wide vision cupola, caboose in 1959 and is preserved in Huntington, WV.
S. Roger Kirkpatrick, 731 6th St., Marietta, OH 45750
Galesburg, Michigan, Cabooses
Hi,
There are 4 cabooses in Galesburg, MI, reported as "Dr. James Smith, S. 38th St., south of town". They are:
Steel, cupola, ATSF? #? to GTW 75???;
Wood, cupola, GTW 77028, from Coopersville, MI;
Wood, cupola PM A609 to C&O A609, from Reed City, MI;
Wood, cupola, PRR #?, built 1904, from Hybel Produce, Galesburg, MI?
Are these 4 cabooses still at this location? Does anyone know the missing road numbers? Are there any photos of these cars on the Internet?
Thanks, Roger
There are 4 cabooses in Galesburg, MI, reported as "Dr. James Smith, S. 38th St., south of town". They are:
Steel, cupola, ATSF? #? to GTW 75???;
Wood, cupola, GTW 77028, from Coopersville, MI;
Wood, cupola PM A609 to C&O A609, from Reed City, MI;
Wood, cupola, PRR #?, built 1904, from Hybel Produce, Galesburg, MI?
Are these 4 cabooses still at this location? Does anyone know the missing road numbers? Are there any photos of these cars on the Internet?
Thanks, Roger
S. Roger Kirkpatrick, 731 6th St., Marietta, OH 45750
Howell, MI, Caboose
Hi,
Does anyone know the ATSF &/or GTW road number for the caboose used as the Whistle Stop Ice Cream Depot, Grand River & Chilson, Howell, MI?
Thanks, Roger
Does anyone know the ATSF &/or GTW road number for the caboose used as the Whistle Stop Ice Cream Depot, Grand River & Chilson, Howell, MI?
Thanks, Roger
S. Roger Kirkpatrick, 731 6th St., Marietta, OH 45750
Jasper, MI, Caboose
Hi,
RR? #?, steel or wood?, cupola or bay window?, Pool House, Treat Hwy. & Codling Rd.
Except for the railroad of origin, road number, composition, and style, this is a complete report!
Any help with the minor details will be appreciated.
Thanks, Roger
RR? #?, steel or wood?, cupola or bay window?, Pool House, Treat Hwy. & Codling Rd.
Except for the railroad of origin, road number, composition, and style, this is a complete report!
Any help with the minor details will be appreciated.
Thanks, Roger
S. Roger Kirkpatrick, 731 6th St., Marietta, OH 45750
ATSF waycars to GTW cabooses
Hi,
Here are most of the numbers for the ATSF waycars that became GTW cabooses:
ATSF 1500 - 1649 blt. by AC&F in 1927, ATSF 1650 - 1749 blt. by AC&F in 1928:
75000 - 1620 - as fake ATSF 999005, M-115, 5 miles west of Farwell, MI
75001 - 1707 - Port Huron Township Hall, Port Huron Twp., from KOA, Kimball, MI
75002 - 1635 - no markings, M-33, downtown Comins, MI
75003 - 1647 - across tracks from Union Station, Durand, MI
75004 - 1583 - Gregory's Tavern, 1394 E. Riverside Dr., Ionia, MI, from KOA, Kimball, MI
75005 (1) - 1740 - was at KOA, Kimball, MI, but has been sold & moved to ?
75006 - 1537 - KOA, 5111 Lapeer Rd., Kimball, MI, for sale
75007 - 1559 - Amtrak Station, Lapeer, MI
75008 - 1540 - ?
75009 - 1574 - as Coopersville & Marne Railway, Coopersville, MI
75010 - 1514 - James DiMoff, address?, Marshall, MI
75011 - 1528 - was last reported in Port Huron Yard, was it sold or scrapped?
75012 - 1541 - ?
75013 - 1558 - ?
75014 - 1591 - ?
75015 - 1730 - Charlie Anible, #? South Masten Rd., south west of town, Branch, MI
75016 - 1593 - PM Depot, M-24, east side of town, Mayville, MI
75017 - 1597 - GTW Depot Museum, Imlay City, MI
75018 - 1627 - Caboose Store & Lock, SR 19, south of town, Wakarusa, IN
75019 - 1565 - Mark Osterman, M-24, Caro, MI, also reported as "BR 27"?
75020 - 1563 ?
75021 - 1633 - address?, Thompsonville, MI, from Ada, MI
75022 - 1572 - ?
75023 - 1560 - Mackinac Grille, Depot, St. Ignace, MI
75024 - 1503 - destroyed about 1981
75025 - 1513 - Depot Museum, Vicksburg, MI
75026 - 1525 - Lenawee Junction, Adrian, MI
75027 - 1508 - ?
75028 - 1568 - ?
75029 - 1594 - ?
75030 - 1562 - ?
75031 - 1612 - ?
75032 - 1616 - as Whistle Stop Ice Cream Station, 2387 E. Grand River Ave., Howell, MI
75033 - 1643 - ?
ATSF 2201 - 2300 built by ATSF in 1949:
79185 - 2265 - ?
79186 - 2215? - Loose Caboose Takeout Restaurant, Rt. 28, Inlet, NY
79187 - 2252 - ?
79188 - 2215? - ?
79189 - 2215? - ?
79190 - 2215? - ?
GTW #? - ATSF #? - Riverside? Marina, 1613 E. Elm Ave., Monroe, MI, # should be on the center sill
GTW? - ATSF #? - as MS 04945, MSO RR, 69239 S. Kalamazoo, White Pigeon, MI
GTW #? - ATSF? - Dr. Smith, #? S. 38th St., south of Galesburg, MI
The Caboose Hotel, South Haven, MI, does not have a former GTW caboose, it's probably a Wabash.
Please let me know if you have any additional information on the ATSF to GTW cabooses or see any errors in the data above!
Thanks, Roger
Here are most of the numbers for the ATSF waycars that became GTW cabooses:
ATSF 1500 - 1649 blt. by AC&F in 1927, ATSF 1650 - 1749 blt. by AC&F in 1928:
75000 - 1620 - as fake ATSF 999005, M-115, 5 miles west of Farwell, MI
75001 - 1707 - Port Huron Township Hall, Port Huron Twp., from KOA, Kimball, MI
75002 - 1635 - no markings, M-33, downtown Comins, MI
75003 - 1647 - across tracks from Union Station, Durand, MI
75004 - 1583 - Gregory's Tavern, 1394 E. Riverside Dr., Ionia, MI, from KOA, Kimball, MI
75005 (1) - 1740 - was at KOA, Kimball, MI, but has been sold & moved to ?
75006 - 1537 - KOA, 5111 Lapeer Rd., Kimball, MI, for sale
75007 - 1559 - Amtrak Station, Lapeer, MI
75008 - 1540 - ?
75009 - 1574 - as Coopersville & Marne Railway, Coopersville, MI
75010 - 1514 - James DiMoff, address?, Marshall, MI
75011 - 1528 - was last reported in Port Huron Yard, was it sold or scrapped?
75012 - 1541 - ?
75013 - 1558 - ?
75014 - 1591 - ?
75015 - 1730 - Charlie Anible, #? South Masten Rd., south west of town, Branch, MI
75016 - 1593 - PM Depot, M-24, east side of town, Mayville, MI
75017 - 1597 - GTW Depot Museum, Imlay City, MI
75018 - 1627 - Caboose Store & Lock, SR 19, south of town, Wakarusa, IN
75019 - 1565 - Mark Osterman, M-24, Caro, MI, also reported as "BR 27"?
75020 - 1563 ?
75021 - 1633 - address?, Thompsonville, MI, from Ada, MI
75022 - 1572 - ?
75023 - 1560 - Mackinac Grille, Depot, St. Ignace, MI
75024 - 1503 - destroyed about 1981
75025 - 1513 - Depot Museum, Vicksburg, MI
75026 - 1525 - Lenawee Junction, Adrian, MI
75027 - 1508 - ?
75028 - 1568 - ?
75029 - 1594 - ?
75030 - 1562 - ?
75031 - 1612 - ?
75032 - 1616 - as Whistle Stop Ice Cream Station, 2387 E. Grand River Ave., Howell, MI
75033 - 1643 - ?
ATSF 2201 - 2300 built by ATSF in 1949:
79185 - 2265 - ?
79186 - 2215? - Loose Caboose Takeout Restaurant, Rt. 28, Inlet, NY
79187 - 2252 - ?
79188 - 2215? - ?
79189 - 2215? - ?
79190 - 2215? - ?
GTW #? - ATSF #? - Riverside? Marina, 1613 E. Elm Ave., Monroe, MI, # should be on the center sill
GTW? - ATSF #? - as MS 04945, MSO RR, 69239 S. Kalamazoo, White Pigeon, MI
GTW #? - ATSF? - Dr. Smith, #? S. 38th St., south of Galesburg, MI
The Caboose Hotel, South Haven, MI, does not have a former GTW caboose, it's probably a Wabash.
Please let me know if you have any additional information on the ATSF to GTW cabooses or see any errors in the data above!
Thanks, Roger
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S. Roger Kirkpatrick, 731 6th St., Marietta, OH 45750
Kimball, MI, Cabooses
Hi,
At one time at least eight GTW cabooses were purchased and moved to the property of the Port Huron KOA, 5111 Lapeer Rd., Kimball, MI. At least 1 of these, GTW 79180, was sold and moved to Jeddo, MI.
A report made about 5 years listed 7 cars including two that were thought to have been sold but not yet removed from the KOA property: ATSF 1707 to GTW 75001, ATSF 1583 to GTW 75004, ATSF 1740 to GTW 75005 (1) (sold?), ATSF 1537 to GTW 75006 (sold?), GTW 79051, GTW 79052, & GTW 79059. The ex-ATSF cars are steel, cupola models and the other 3 are steel, wide vision cupola models.
Which of these hacks are still at the at the Port Huron KOA?
Thanks, Roger
At one time at least eight GTW cabooses were purchased and moved to the property of the Port Huron KOA, 5111 Lapeer Rd., Kimball, MI. At least 1 of these, GTW 79180, was sold and moved to Jeddo, MI.
A report made about 5 years listed 7 cars including two that were thought to have been sold but not yet removed from the KOA property: ATSF 1707 to GTW 75001, ATSF 1583 to GTW 75004, ATSF 1740 to GTW 75005 (1) (sold?), ATSF 1537 to GTW 75006 (sold?), GTW 79051, GTW 79052, & GTW 79059. The ex-ATSF cars are steel, cupola models and the other 3 are steel, wide vision cupola models.
Which of these hacks are still at the at the Port Huron KOA?
Thanks, Roger
S. Roger Kirkpatrick, 731 6th St., Marietta, OH 45750