Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:18 am
redside20 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:18 amThe GP plant in Owosso Michigan.
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Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:22 am
Seems like they receive 9-12 cars a week. Anyone feel free to correct my estimate.
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:40 pm
Huge new battery plant being built in Marshall on the AML, to be served by NS per the articles I've seen.
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:10 pm
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:57 pm
Probably certain raw materials inbound. What that might be I have no clue, that’s way above my pay grade. As far as shipping is concerned that’s a hard no. None of Ford’s assembly plants receive anything by rail with the only exceptions being the truck plants (Dearborn, Wayne, Ohio Assy. and Kentucky Truck) getting frames. Every other part is delivered via truck.
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:12 pm
It will be rail served in some capacity. The State is giving NS up to $15 million for yard construction, but officially they are saying that money is really to help NS "expand its footprint in Michigan." It is also hard to tell if "battery plant" means "vehicle assembly plant" as well? The press releases are confusing.Chip wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:57 pmProbably certain raw materials inbound. What that might be I have no clue, that’s way above my pay grade. As far as shipping is concerned that’s a hard no. None of Ford’s assembly plants receive anything by rail with the only exceptions being the truck plants (Dearborn, Wayne, Ohio Assy. and Kentucky Truck) getting frames. Every other part is delivered via truck.
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:23 pm
*Technically* a lot of the truck-delivered parts do come via intermodal trainsChip wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:57 pmProbably certain raw materials inbound. What that might be I have no clue, that’s way above my pay grade. As far as shipping is concerned that’s a hard no. None of Ford’s assembly plants receive anything by rail with the only exceptions being the truck plants (Dearborn, Wayne, Ohio Assy. and Kentucky Truck) getting frames. Every other part is delivered via truck.
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:26 am
If it’s served by rail, it’s inbound materials only. The only thing Ford ships out via rail is finished vehicles.NS3322 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:12 pmIt will be rail served in some capacity. The State is giving NS up to $15 million for yard construction, but officially they are saying that money is really to help NS "expand its footprint in Michigan." It is also hard to tell if "battery plant" means "vehicle assembly plant" as well? The press releases are confusing.Chip wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:57 pmProbably certain raw materials inbound. What that might be I have no clue, that’s way above my pay grade. As far as shipping is concerned that’s a hard no. None of Ford’s assembly plants receive anything by rail with the only exceptions being the truck plants (Dearborn, Wayne, Ohio Assy. and Kentucky Truck) getting frames. Every other part is delivered via truck.
No vehicles will be assembled there. Battery assembly means battery assembly.
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:29 am
Not as many as you would think, at least not to the assembly plants. I’ve worked the docks before and never driven into a container. The parts plants and supplier plants, maybe.Saturnalia wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:23 pm*Technically* a lot of the truck-delivered parts do come via intermodal trainsChip wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:57 pmProbably certain raw materials inbound. What that might be I have no clue, that’s way above my pay grade. As far as shipping is concerned that’s a hard no. None of Ford’s assembly plants receive anything by rail with the only exceptions being the truck plants (Dearborn, Wayne, Ohio Assy. and Kentucky Truck) getting frames. Every other part is delivered via truck.
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:41 am
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:14 am
I have not seen a map showing where the battery plant will be in Marshall. I assume the State/MDOT will have to build a branch line to get to the plant site. Do not see much rail business this plant will produce. Batteries are made in Georga so maybe NS will get he haul of batteries out of Georga. Batteries are heavy. Can put a whole lot more in a boxcar than truck trailer. Plant in Marshall will assemble batteries for placing in the automobile so will most likley be truck out of the plant to the automobile assembly plant. (Just in time delivery which the railroads are not good at).
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:19 am
I work for Ford, it’s batteries only, trust me. We have too many assembly plants as it is, there’s no way in hell they’re building another one at this point without closing another one with the new Blue Oval City under construction in Tennessee.
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:22 am
Finished batteries shipped out of Rawsonville and Brownstown are shipped via truck. Every rack that holds parts is designed in a way to carry the most weight and highest quantity and not overload trucks. There’s too many trucks on the road carrying Ford parts for them to gamble with overweight trucks. Same goes for GM and Chrysler.KenB wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:14 amI have not seen a map showing where the battery plant will be in Marshall. I assume the State/MDOT will have to build a branch line to get to the plant site. Do not see much rail business this plant will produce. Batteries are made in Georga so maybe NS will get he haul of batteries out of Georga. Batteries are heavy. Can put a whole lot more in a boxcar than truck trailer. Plant in Marshall will assemble batteries for placing in the automobile so will most likley be truck out of the plant to the automobile assembly plant. (Just in time delivery which the railroads are not good at).
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:23 am
As Chip said they likely will only receive inbound raw materials by rail.KenB wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:14 amI have not seen a map showing where the battery plant will be in Marshall. I assume the State/MDOT will have to build a branch line to get to the plant site. Do not see much rail business this plant will produce. Batteries are made in Georga so maybe NS will get he haul of batteries out of Georga. Batteries are heavy. Can put a whole lot more in a boxcar than truck trailer. Plant in Marshall will assemble batteries for placing in the automobile so will most likley be truck out of the plant to the automobile assembly plant. (Just in time delivery which the railroads are not good at).
The location and map have been well publicized. The plant is being built roughly where C Drive N is currently just west of I-69 in Marshall by Boshears Ford dealership.
No need for a branch line at all, since it is being built directly alongside the AML.
Gotcha! That makes way more sense. I kind of figured the news reports got that wrong.Chip wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:19 amI work for Ford, it’s batteries only, trust me. We have too many assembly plants as it is, there’s no way in hell they’re building another one at this point without closing another one with the new Blue Oval City under construction in Tennessee.
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:29 am
As I said yesterday the only assembly plants that receive inbound parts are the truck plants that get frames which are Wayne, Kansas City, Kentucky Truck, Dearborn, and Ohio Assembly. Dearborn Stamping still uses their spur that goes into the building last I knew.
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:03 pm
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:19 pm
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:46 pm
Tiny batteries that they will smush into bigger batteries.
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:52 pm
The battery casings are metal.
My best guess is the raw minerals, whatever those may be, to make the batteries themselves.
Re: Michigan Rail business news redux
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:04 pm
Do any of Ford’s stamping plants still receive inbound or ship outbound parts?Chip wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:29 amAs I said yesterday the only assembly plants that receive inbound parts are the truck plants that get frames which are Wayne, Kansas City, Kentucky Truck, Dearborn, and Ohio Assembly. Dearborn Stamping still uses their spur that goes into the building last I knew.