Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 8:09 pm
This article explains it all:
http://www.nwitimes.com/business/local/ ... dabae.html
http://www.nwitimes.com/business/local/ ... dabae.html
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Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
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Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 8:13 pm
Well it appears that I won't be taking a full fall Porter trip...it will be cool to see the differences after all is said and done...
Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:32 pm
Unless you go west of the junction, you won't be seeing much in the way of changes there. The vast majority of the work is taking place west of 482 and then to the State Line at 509.MQT3001 wrote:Well it appears that I won't be taking a full fall Porter trip...it will be cool to see the differences after all is said and done...
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Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:37 pm
Yes but trackwork, signalwork and of course switchwork could easily toss a wrench into speeds and train counts...especially with that Elkhart project going on.CSX_CO wrote:Unless you go west of the junction, you won't be seeing much in the way of changes there. The vast majority of the work is taking place west of 482 and then to the State Line at 509.MQT3001 wrote:Well it appears that I won't be taking a full fall Porter trip...it will be cool to see the differences after all is said and done...
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Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:42 pm
You are just silly, MQT.
Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:43 pm
So...what work is being done? That article was pretty vague. Or do they not know?
Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:45 pm
Unless you just so happen to be there on a day where they are cutting in a switch or crossover, and under a curfew, I bet the train count is barely dented by the work. There is no way you're going to divert all the traffic off the NYC at that point, so I'm sure project will be done in phases with minimal interruption to operations.MQT3001 wrote: Yes but trackwork, signalwork and of course switchwork could easily toss a wrench into speeds and train counts...especially with that Elkhart project going on.
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Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:18 pm
May have to do with the Midwest HSR South of the Lake upgrades: http://greatlakesrail.org/~grtlakes/
Hopefully we'll see a press package released by INDOT, MDOT or ILDOT that will clarify things. I'm most interested in understanding the routing - considering only NS is involved from the freight carriers it's likely just capacity improvements to the existing LS&MS-PFW&C routing from Porter to CUS - at least for now.
Hopefully we'll see a press package released by INDOT, MDOT or ILDOT that will clarify things. I'm most interested in understanding the routing - considering only NS is involved from the freight carriers it's likely just capacity improvements to the existing LS&MS-PFW&C routing from Porter to CUS - at least for now.
Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 5:29 am
From a 05/21/13 TrainOrders post:cbehr91 wrote:So...what work is being done? That article was pretty vague. Or do they not know?
http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/r ... ?4,3079521Here is a list of improvements that were planned. It's from a couple of years ago, so parts of it may be different now. NS insisted on some changes from what I've heard. For reference, CP482 is Porter.
479.3 Construct universal crossover
482 Construct meet/pass siding near junction with Amtrak line
485 Construct new control point and universal high speed crossover
487 Replace control point, construct new universal high speed crossover, construct new crossover for access to South Shore RR
490.2-491 Construct new control point and new universal high speed crossover, construct siding extension and upgrade existing siding
492.5 Construct new control point and high speed universal crossover
495 Construct new control point and high speed universal crossover with connection to Kirk Yard
497 Rebuild signals and install high speed turnout to Pine Yard siding extension
497-499 Extend passing siding
499 Add power turnout for access to Pine Yard
500 Upgrade existing passing siding
499-501.2 Add power turnouts and construct passing siding extension
501 Modify/expand control point and install high speed turnout to siding extension
505.9-506 Construct new control point and rebuild and expand existing control point and add new high speed universal crossover. Construct new track to improve connectivity with existing running track.
Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:21 am
Why are you concerned about speeds? Most of your videos are of trains moving at a snail's pace.MQT3001 wrote: Yes but trackwork, signalwork and of course switchwork could easily toss a wrench into speeds and train counts...especially with that Elkhart project going on.
Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:01 pm
I'm guessing this is part of this project, but just today trains are starting to use a new crossover at CP 479. I'm not certain if there is one for eastbound trains to move from 1 to 2/westbounds 2 to 1, but their is one for eastbounds to move from 2 to 1/westbounds to move from 1 to 2. This is a limited speed (40-45 MPH) switch. I will update as soon as I get more info.
Signals in both directions on both tracks are now ABSOLUTE.
(5 minutes later) EDIT - Yes, there is also a crossover for eatsbounds to go from 1 to 2/westbounds 2 to 1. A test train B01 (light power) just went over it eastbound from main 1 to 2 at 42 MPH and will be stopping and reversing back through for another test.
Signals in both directions on both tracks are now ABSOLUTE.
(5 minutes later) EDIT - Yes, there is also a crossover for eatsbounds to go from 1 to 2/westbounds 2 to 1. A test train B01 (light power) just went over it eastbound from main 1 to 2 at 42 MPH and will be stopping and reversing back through for another test.
Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:19 pm
Cool! Bring on the third main!
Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:35 pm
Already have it between Auburn and W. Garrett, IN.MQT3001 wrote:Cool! Bring on the third main!
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Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 4:22 pm
The I-94 bridge work at 482 in Porter is just about done. The bridge at 484.5 still has a 25 mph slow order as they're adding an addition bridge on the north and south side for 2 additional tracks. Between 491 and 489 they have graded and have begun moving signals in preparation for an additional track. It looks like they will be extending the "remote" siding between 491 and 492 east as the third main to start.
They also look to be connecting the 3rd main between 505 and 506, where the line shifts from the NYC to the PRR alignment. The land is graded and the crossing between the two already has a 3rd track in it.
They also look to be connecting the 3rd main between 505 and 506, where the line shifts from the NYC to the PRR alignment. The land is graded and the crossing between the two already has a 3rd track in it.
Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:40 pm
NS DED/HBD at 490.1 has been moved to 490.0.
I didn't notice anything new along the NS Chi Line while riding on South Shore Yesterday.
I didn't notice anything new along the NS Chi Line while riding on South Shore Yesterday.
Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:39 pm
So ... headed westbound, is the crossover from 1-2 first or the crossover from 2-1? I believe it is 1-2 then 2-1 westbound (although no train would be routed through both switches) but the weather kept me away from verifying the layout this weekend.justin_gram wrote:(5 minutes later) EDIT - Yes, there is also a crossover for eatsbounds to go from 1 to 2/westbounds 2 to 1. A test train B01 (light power) just went over it eastbound from main 1 to 2 at 42 MPH and will be stopping and reversing back through for another test.
Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:16 am
It probably is like that, but I have no idea. If anyone is able to go look (which is hard withount tresspassing) please do. Probably the best spot would be looking west at CR-250 E or N Calumet Ave looking east, but have a good zoom lense since these are still far from the CP.
justalurker66 wrote:So ... headed westbound, is the crossover from 1-2 first or the crossover from 2-1? I believe it is 1-2 then 2-1 westbound (although no train would be routed through both switches) but the weather kept me away from verifying the layout this weekend.justin_gram wrote:(5 minutes later) EDIT - Yes, there is also a crossover for eatsbounds to go from 1 to 2/westbounds 2 to 1. A test train B01 (light power) just went over it eastbound from main 1 to 2 at 42 MPH and will be stopping and reversing back through for another test.
Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:32 pm
It looks like the CP (at 479.3) is closer to CR 250 (crossing at 479.22) than Calumet (crossing at 480.87) ... with the overhead bridges of SR 4 (crossing at 480.37). If it cannot be seen from CR 250 a quick stop on the northbound SR 4 bridge might give a view.
Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:59 pm
Are the intermediate lights at IN 49 still there? Or were those removed with the advent of this new control point?
Re: Porter Junction rail project finally gets green light
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:43 am
CP 479 should be now just like the signals at Grey. The eb and wb are spaced apart and the interlocking s are in the middle. They are now Absolute. I have no clue how close they are to the bridge now.MQT3001 wrote:Are the intermediate lights at IN 49 still there? Or were those removed with the advent of this new control point?