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Fostoria signal question

Unread postby DaveO » Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:38 am

Watching Railstream this morning on their youtube freeview.

I watched as a westbound CSX train crossed the NS.
It had a green over red (clear) which dropped to red over red (stop)
After it had gone several hundred feet past the NS diamonds, the signal went red over lunar (restricting). This struck me as weird. After some thought, I do understand the use as the route across the diamond was still lined for CSX usage.
As the train proceeded west, the signal went yellow over red (approach) and then finally to green over red (clear) just in time for the next train.

So that got me wondering about this...
When they closed F tower, did they do any modification to the signal layout? Did they remove some and simplifying the layout? Maybe they added some or moved some?
Just curious.
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Re: Fostoria signal question

Unread postby trainjunkie47 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:34 pm

I could be wrong, but I don't think anything changed. I think it was just a case of the first train hitting the next two blocks before the second train arrived? The next block going westbound is a set of crossovers. Possibly the first train took the crossover, or the second train was lined to take the crossover after the first train cleared. Several possibilities.
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Re: Fostoria signal question

Unread postby Saturnalia » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:54 pm

Probably seeing more restricting now if the dispatchers are using automated computer-line ups and fleeting more often than perhaps the tower operator used to. Perhaps in the past the tower operators didn't line up trains quite as fast as the remotes and their computer overlords do now.

Which begs the question, to what extent is CSX's dispatching automated these days? Are dispatchers still clearing every signal and making the line-ups themselves or babysitting the computer?
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Re: Fostoria signal question

Unread postby DaveO » Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:15 am

I think Saturnalia is on the right track saying that the F Tower Operators were more in control of the movements than a remote dispatcher will ever be able to.
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Re: Fostoria signal question

Unread postby Typhoon » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:05 pm

DaveO wrote:I think Saturnalia is on the right track saying that the F Tower Operators were more in control of the movements than a remote dispatcher will ever be able to.



You can think that but you would be wrong, as he is.
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Re: Fostoria signal question

Unread postby Typhoon » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:08 pm

Saturnalia wrote:Probably seeing more restricting now if the dispatchers are using automated computer-line ups and fleeting more often than perhaps the tower operator used to. Perhaps in the past the tower operators didn't line up trains quite as fast as the remotes and their computer overlords do now.

Which begs the question, to what extent is CSX's dispatching automated these days?


On the western half of the railroad? Zero.
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Re: Fostoria signal question

Unread postby LakeATCS » Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:06 am

Only changes were some stuff on the NS side.
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Re: Fostoria signal question

Unread postby JoJames » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:37 pm

Dispatcher clicked the mouse twice for a through route at wood street. Pretty common move with a train following another.
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Re: Fostoria signal question

Unread postby Saturnalia » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:56 pm

Typhoon wrote:
Saturnalia wrote:Which begs the question, to what extent is CSX's dispatching automated these days?

On the western half of the railroad? Zero.

Are they in the process of trying anything out?
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