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JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby jrgerber » Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:51 pm

They are taking down the crossing SiSigns on MLK by the old Lindell Forge
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby railrod1949 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:16 pm

jrgerber wrote:They are taking down the crossing SiSigns on MLK by the old Lindell Forge


I went over that crossing muliple times. My late aunt and uncle lived two blocks west of that crossing. My late dad used to worked at the Lansing Drop Forge on the east side of S. Logan Street (now MLK Blvd.) and south of the track, both in Lansing. The remaining rail customer on the old LS&MS line that went to Hillsdale ( later the old NYC South spur track) is the Quality Dairy plant on the west side of S. Washington Avenue, south of W. Mt. Hope Avenue and north of W. Holmes Road in Lansing. The trackage between south of Lansing and Albion was tore up in 1940. Lansing Drop Forge used to have two rail sidings, The lumber yard( what was the name of it?) was located on the west side of the track between W. Mt. Hope Avenue and S. MLK Blvd., And the Schaefer Bread building was located just north of the lumber yard. Quality Dairy only get two cover hoppers per month. Reid Machinery is located in the west side of MLK Blvd. and north side of the track.
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby jrgerber » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:31 pm

I cant remember the last time i saw a train use that crossing There was a lumberyard Atlas Forge and Schaffer Bread building by the tracks
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby NS3322 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:26 pm

Does Reid Machinery no longer get rail service? Are they abandoning that portion of the branch line?
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby railrod1949 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:38 pm

NS3322 wrote:Does Reid Machinery no longer get rail service? Are they abandoning that portion of the branch line?



That's correct!
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby AARR » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:10 pm

Although retaining customers is the goal Reid only received a few cars a year
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NS3322 wrote:Does Reid Machinery no longer get rail service? Are they abandoning that portion of the branch line?



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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby Waddy » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:55 pm

Quality dairy use to get about two cars a month. Reid hasnt hasnt gotten anything in awhile.
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby MiddleMI » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:22 am

Wait, are they formally abandoning this section? From the end to how far up the track? I'd heard nothing of this, and had no idea Reid wasn't getting shipping anything, anymore. How long ago was this? We've talked about this here before; maybe it's just been longer than I thought. I've seen them using the track for storage fairly recently, though of course this is on the east side of the crossing.
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby AARR » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:21 am

Did QD stop rail service?
Waddy wrote:Quality dairy use to get about two cars a month. Reid hasnt hasnt gotten anything in awhile.
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby Waddy » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:43 am

AARR wrote:Did QD stop rail service?
Waddy wrote:Quality dairy use to get about two cars a month. Reid hasnt hasnt gotten anything in awhile.

Not that I know of, but its on the north side of MLK so that crossing isn't need to reach them.
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby Tim » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:56 am

I was told over a decade ago that the track south of Logan/MLK is owned by Reid. Could be JAIL figured that maintaining the crossing protection wasn't worth the cost for the amount of revenue produced. Would imagine that it would still require some sort of regulatory permission to remove the protection thou.
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby AARR » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:12 am

It’s not a big deal but I was under the impression they receive 2 cars every other week.
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AARR wrote:Did QD stop rail service?
Waddy wrote:Quality dairy use to get about two cars a month. Reid hasnt hasnt gotten anything in awhile.

Not that I know of, but its on the north side of MLK so that crossing isn't need to reach them.
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby jrgerber » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:20 am

Was there or will there be a formal Abandonment of the Line? Wasnt this part of the lakeshore and michigan Southern that ran north from Jonesville to Lansing Cant remember when it was abandoned
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby railrod1949 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:40 am

jrgerber wrote:Was there or will there be a formal Abandonment of the Line? Wasnt this part of the lakeshore and michigan Southern that ran north from Jonesville to Lansing Cant remember when it was abandoned


That's correct! Please see my earlier story above!! It was abandoned in 1940 between Albion and Lansing.
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby jrgerber » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:52 am

Sorry thanks for the history
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby Tim » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:15 am

The ICC gave it's OK to abandon Springport to Lansing 12/15/1940 with the exception of some trackage in Eaton Rapids. A photo of the last train crew on duty at the Gier St roundhouse was dated as 12/15/1940. However several people have told me the rail was still in during WW-2 and a circus train came up the line during the war although I can't find that information at present. In 1968 there was still a double team track just north of Holmes Rd where the line ended.
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby NYCMan » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:48 pm

So did JAIL abandon the track without STB permission? Is it possible the signal was knocked down by a drunk driver? Did JAIL pull up the track?
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby jrgerber » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:05 pm

One crossing Signal is Down no Track Has been Pulled yet
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby MiddleMI » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:05 pm

jrberger,

I thought you'd have known this before posting. The only other thing I can think of is that this may have been a result of the manhunt they had earlier this month where they were using a bearcat along the corridor. They eventually caught the guy east of the tracks, but they'd cordoned off the whole corridor. Just a guess, because I've not seen or heard anything about a formal abandonment.
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Re: JAIL MLK Crossing

Unread postby jrgerber » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:47 am

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