I would need to know what Gerdau and general materials shipped as specifically as you can remember the cars. Chelsea grain is still not served that I know of. I haven’t seen any old grain Hoppers to say otherwise.NS3322 wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:46 pmInteresting to hear that. Unrelated, but I wonder if the ethanol plant in Riga is also in the same boat (it shut down briefly in 2019)?
How is Gerdau traffic since melting and casting operations were idled in 2020?
Meaning to ask, is General Materials in Jackson still using rail? Also, is Chelsea Grain done for good, or has someone taken it over?
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General Materials would receive an occasional building supply/lumber carload
I thought someone said that Gerdau shuttles 30-50 carloads of steel coil a week to the place in Holt. Can someone confirm this?
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NS brings it to Jackson Yard and then it’s handed off to JAIL. They also interchange with them other cars as well for Michigan Packaging, Kent Feeds etc...ns8401 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 7:27 amLansing Railfan mentioned this.
The Gerdau to RSDC-Holt is captive traffic from Jackson to Holt. Occasionally, RSDC gets a coil from CSX. Also, Harris Rebar gets coil and flats from CSX.
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Fairly certain Kent Feeds is an inactive customer.LansingRailFan wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:59 amNS brings it to Jackson Yard and then it’s handed off to JAIL. They also interchange with them other cars as well for Michigan Packaging, Kent Feeds etc...
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Kent's spur is in very poor shape and may be disconnected. However, it shares a lead with the steel place next door (former lumber yard) and their spur is still intact although unused.
Also, the elevator in town (now operated by Eaton Farm Bureau) gets a few carloads of fertilizer from what I hear (maybe feed too)
Also, the elevator in town (now operated by Eaton Farm Bureau) gets a few carloads of fertilizer from what I hear (maybe feed too)
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NS 7147 and NS 7149 are in Lawton switching out the Welch’s plant right now. Should be heading back south soon. They may have already switched out Cargill in Decatur before they got here.
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Kents tracks are removedAARR wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 3:14 pmKent's spur is in very poor shape and may be disconnected. However, it shares a lead with the steel place next door (former lumber yard) and their spur is still intact although unused.
Also, the elevator in town (now operated by Eaton Farm Bureau) gets a few carloads of fertilizer from what I hear (maybe feed too)
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Where is Kent's located on the NS Michigan Line?
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It's on the JAIL in Mason. A little off-topic, but relevant.
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Are there other steel sources in Jackson?1TrackMind wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 11:09 pmI've never heard of Gerdau sending cars to RSI in Holt.
These cars are captive to Jackson/Holt and don’t go back to Detroit.
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What cars are captive? None of the coil cars ever stayed in Jackson.LansingRailFan wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 2:10 pmAre there other steel sources in Jackson?1TrackMind wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 11:09 pmI've never heard of Gerdau sending cars to RSI in Holt.
These cars are captive to Jackson/Holt and don’t go back to Detroit.
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Just an FYI, there is another unit train at Cargill that is loading tonight and tomorrow. Supposed to be a beautiful day tomorrow, good day for a drive to Decatur.
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They don’t stay in Jackson. They constantly move back and forth between Gerdau in Jackson and RSDC in Holt.1TrackMind wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 2:30 pmWhat cars are captive? None of the coil cars ever stayed in Jackson.LansingRailFan wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 2:10 pmAre there other steel sources in Jackson?1TrackMind wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 11:09 pm
I've never heard of Gerdau sending cars to RSI in Holt.
These cars are captive to Jackson/Holt and don’t go back to Detroit.
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Are the coil cars carrying NS reporting marks?
To have a fleet of cars only traveling on NS track for such a short distance makes me wonder.
The revenue division wouldn't seem that good unless they have a contract with the parties involved.
Or the cars are leased from NS or someone else.
To have a fleet of cars only traveling on NS track for such a short distance makes me wonder.
The revenue division wouldn't seem that good unless they have a contract with the parties involved.
Or the cars are leased from NS or someone else.
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I’ll catalog the reporting marks of all of the cars and repost at a later date.DaveO wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 12:41 pmAre the coil cars carrying NS reporting marks?
To have a fleet of cars only traveling on NS track for such a short distance makes me wonder.
The revenue division wouldn't seem that good unless they have a contract with the parties involved.
Or the cars are leased from NS or someone else.
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Per Facebook, it sounds like NS took one of B57's (Battle Creek local) locomotives and B57 will now be permanently sporting an N&W caboose. The caboose will primarily be used for the nightly shoving move back from WestRock.
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Have you had an opportunity to catalog reporting markings?
You are a reliable and trusted source of railroad information so I believe you that Gerdau is shipping steel coils to Holt but it seems strange because I used to get by there once a month (now it's about once every six months) and I've not seen a single coil car in their property ever.
You are a reliable and trusted source of railroad information so I believe you that Gerdau is shipping steel coils to Holt but it seems strange because I used to get by there once a month (now it's about once every six months) and I've not seen a single coil car in their property ever.
LansingRailFan wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 2:00 pmI’ll catalog the reporting marks of all of the cars and repost at a later date.DaveO wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 12:41 pmAre the coil cars carrying NS reporting marks?
To have a fleet of cars only traveling on NS track for such a short distance makes me wonder.
The revenue division wouldn't seem that good unless they have a contract with the parties involved.
Or the cars are leased from NS or someone else.
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Get me some coil car numbers and I can tell you if they are shuttling.