Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby SD80MAC » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:27 am

blueheron13 wrote:I mean it originates in Flint just like D736. Maybe I'm not using the right terms?

D711 is based out of Port Huron, unless something has changed very recently.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby blueheron13 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:06 pm

D711 generally leaves Flint in the late morning and returns from Port Huron in the late afternoon. A rail fan on Michigan Railroads often gives a heads up when it enters the CN Flint Sub. I caught it today returning to McGrew Yard in the middle of the afternoon.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby AARR » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:38 pm

I think there are periods it will operate three days a week rather than daily
blueheron13 wrote:D711 generally leaves Flint in the late morning and returns from Port Huron in the late afternoon. A rail fan on Michigan Railroads often gives a heads up when it enters the CN Flint Sub. I caught it today returning to McGrew Yard in the middle of the afternoon.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby GreatLakesRailfan » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:21 am

I'm pretty sure it's daily (or almost daily) at this point. I usually see the inbound cars heading toward St Clair when I check the mail at the wye on my way home from work, regardless of which day I stop.

AARR wrote:I think there are periods it will operate three days a week rather than daily
blueheron13 wrote:D711 generally leaves Flint in the late morning and returns from Port Huron in the late afternoon. A rail fan on Michigan Railroads often gives a heads up when it enters the CN Flint Sub. I caught it today returning to McGrew Yard in the middle of the afternoon.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby AARR » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:50 am

A daily schedule make sense for this time of year because LPG is the primary commodity handled on the line and both terminals get a lot of it now
GreatLakesRailfan wrote:I'm pretty sure it's daily (or almost daily) at this point. I usually see the inbound cars heading toward St Clair when I check the mail at the wye on my way home from work, regardless of which day I stop.

AARR wrote:I think there are periods it will operate three days a week rather than daily
blueheron13 wrote:D711 generally leaves Flint in the late morning and returns from Port Huron in the late afternoon. A rail fan on Michigan Railroads often gives a heads up when it enters the CN Flint Sub. I caught it today returning to McGrew Yard in the middle of the afternoon.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Saturnalia » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:00 pm

It's worth noting that there's a decent chance that this takeover is delayed due to the ongoing federal government shutdown. The STB is 100% closed and thus they aren't processing any cases. The last filings to make it to the website were from 21 Dec.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Saturnalia » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:06 pm

Also it looks like LSRC has purchased 6 SD50-2s from CSXT...to be confirmed
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby MQT1223 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:11 pm

Saturnalia wrote:Also it looks like LSRC has purchased 6 SD50-2s from CSXT...to be confirmed


That’s cool... SD50-2’s returning to work on home rails. Can’t wait to see them in the Lake State Paint.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby DaveO » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:13 pm

MQT1223 wrote:
Saturnalia wrote:Also it looks like LSRC has purchased 6 SD50-2s from CSXT...to be confirmed


That’s cool... SD50-2’s returning to work on home rails. Can’t wait to see them in the Lake State Paint.


That's probably not a sentiment shared by CSX employees. Given the rails are being rented and the engines sold, that's not much of a homecoming.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby NS3322 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:22 pm

DaveO wrote:
MQT1223 wrote:
Saturnalia wrote:Also it looks like LSRC has purchased 6 SD50-2s from CSXT...to be confirmed


That’s cool... SD50-2’s returning to work on home rails. Can’t wait to see them in the Lake State Paint.


That's probably not a sentiment shared by CSX employees. Given the rails are being rented and the engines sold, that's not much of a homecoming.


Will there be any job losses as a result of this? Or are impacted employees being given the opportunity to relocate?
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Saturnalia » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:04 pm

NS3322 wrote:Will there be any job losses as a result of this? Or are impacted employees being given the opportunity to relocate?

Shouldn't be many cuts. As per usual the Lake State will likely offer to keep most people who want to stay local. The CSX folks will have to relocate if they don't want to switch roads. But usually the shortlines try to keep the original folks cause they know the railroad.

The SD50-2s are supposedly 2477, 2490, 2498, 8527, 8577, and 8599

It should be noted that these are really just SD50s, CSX added the -2 to designate that they're limited to 3000hp.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Doktor No » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:20 pm

All CSX employees effected can bump their seniority to any positions open and anyone junior to their seniority. Not a problem unless your are the most juniorist with nowhere to go except out of town. Then you may choose to go Lake States. Trainmen can bump to the nearest terminal they can hold.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby NS3322 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:21 pm

Doktor No wrote:All CSX employees effected can bump their seniority to any positions open and anyone junior to their seniority. Not a problem unless your are the most juniorist with nowhere to go except out of town. Then you may choose to go Lake States. Trainmen can bump to the nearest terminal they can hold.


Saturnalia wrote:Shouldn't be many cuts. As per usual the Lake State will likely offer to keep most people who want to stay local. The CSX folks will have to relocate if they don't want to switch roads. But usually the shortlines try to keep the original folks cause they know the railroad.


My assumptions were correct. Thanks for the information guys.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Robertrains » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:38 pm

This shall be awesome!!!! I can't wait to see this coming down the tracks to Plymouth! My first LSRC/SBS train, Mt. Morris, 5-28-2006 (I photographed on Canon® 35mm S.L.R.): Image
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby penn central » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:12 pm

Well Mr Jackson if your waiting for that power combination to come into Plymouth your gonna be pretty much out of luck. The 5921 is sidelined with a major issue, The 3563 is gone or scrapped, The 2052 has been sidelined since 2016. The 2003 is now a slug number 304. The trailing unit witch is either the 1280 or 181 has been scrapped. That is a heck of a picture tho. Very nice.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby NS3322 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:00 pm

penn central wrote:The 5921 is sidelined with a major issue


Aw man, not the ex-GTW unit!
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby penn central » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:19 am

NS3322 wrote:
penn central wrote:The 5921 is sidelined with a major issue


Aw man, not the ex-GTW unit!

I know that was one of my favorites to. It has been parked since 2016 also. I have heard ramblings that it might become the 6300, Once its possibly repaired.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby AARR » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:48 am

I agree with penn central. It's the type of picture that many will enjoy seeing as the years go on.
penn central wrote:Well Mr Jackson...That is a heck of a picture tho. Very nice.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Robertrains » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:00 am

OK, I am well aware that the "ALCOS" are gone! They all, except RS2U #469, were scrapped at the Roundhouse in Saginaw by Waymore® Power in 2011!!!! I was really hoping LSRC SD40 #5921 would be coming down the tracks! :cry: WOW, LSRC is getting "BIGGER!!!!" :mrgreen: This is awesome!!!! :mrgreen: I hope they stay "Independent!!!!"
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penn central wrote: » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:19 am
NS3322 wrote: » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:00 pm
Aw man, not the ex-GTW unit!

I know that was one of my favorites to. It has been parked since 2016 also. I have heard ramblings that it might become the 6300, Once its possibly repaired.
Robertrains wrote: » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:38 pm
penn central wrote: » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:12 pm
Well Mr Jackson if your waiting for that power combination to come into Plymouth your gonna be pretty much out of luck. The 5921 is sidelined with a major issue, The 3563 is gone or scrapped, The 2052 has been sidelined since 2016. The 2003 is now a slug number 304. The trailing unit witch is either the 1280 or 181 has been scrapped. That is a heck of a picture tho. Very nice.

This shall be awesome!!!! I can't wait to see this coming down the tracks to Plymouth! My first LSRC/SBS train, Mt. Morris, 5-28-2006 (I photographed on Canon® 35mm S.L.R.):
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