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Re: NS Peavine talk

Unread postby heypal6878 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:55 am

Glad to see you joined. The new CCET railroad has rebanded the name to Cincinnati Eastern Railroad in the last two months. They now have a few new investors and are getting an upgrade in two different engines that have been sent to Cincinnati.

After NS left the rail they ran most of the rail business away not servicing a few accounts. When the CCET took over they picked up a few accounts out east but most of there business in tanker storage. They then applied for more rail line and now are out about 68 miles from Clare. After that point the rails are in pretty bad shape not sure if they can even be repaired from washouts. There is some video footage on you tube on the Peavine.

The rail is active on Monday, Tuesday Wednesdays and Thursday and every now and then maybe a Friday.
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Re: NS Peavine talk

Unread postby Geno » Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:52 am

Thanks for the info, I greatly appreciate it. I have heard the switch and some rail have been removed at Vera. Sad news, I really dig that big old bridge over the Scioto. I hate it'll never see a train roll over it again. It would make a great focal point for a trail if that ever happens. I hadn't known there was so much talk about the Peavine until finding this site. I'm enjoying it so far. My Grandfather came from the Kentucky coal mines to Ohio to work for the former Pennsy that ran from Columbus to Union City. He didn't care much for it and went back to the mines.
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Re: NS Peavine talk

Unread postby northstar16 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:05 pm

As of about a month and a half ago the new CER has rebranded itself. New investors that have a vision and new staff. The new investors are working with the country to try to lure more business to use the rail. There is now an industrial park in Clermont County. On new company has committed there but not going to use rail. From what I understand their are some talks going on now as a larger company is looking at the property and they most likely will need rail transportation. The State also wants to find a suitable company to come in to one of the counties up there and that as well might drive rail traffic.

Currently the rail is mostly used for storage so we shall see. I understand the new investors are movers and shakers so it will be interesting. For someone to come in a buy out investors in the old CCET they must think they can make a go of it here.

I have followed the old NS Peavine most of my life. I remember as a kid the old Penn Railroad as it ran next to the tracks at Clare to Terrace Park Milford and beyond. Sometimes NS would have 15 trains go over the Little Miami at Clare per day long trains going east and west. The yard was very active.

Now they run up to 68 miles from Clare a far fetch from the 45 miles the CCET started from. So yes the rail has had more business since NS left. The question is will the storage business stay strong? Can the new investors get or bring more business to the line? Of late the rails are shinny on the west side but not so much going out east. The siding does have tankers on the tracks but not as many as say six months ago. Storage I was told is a money maker. If that slows the CER is in some trouble.

The I&O is strong in Cincinnati. The Norwood Yard is always full as they run at least 4 trains everyday north east. I remember when B&O ran the line it was really busy in the 60s and 70s. NS at Sharon Yard is busy all of the time and often I run up that way to watch trains.

I love the Peavine as it runs through many small towns yet many years ago most of these small towns had business that used rail. Today they are long gone dried up, moved out of just closed. So we will see what happens with the new Peavine
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Re: NS Peavine talk

Unread postby northstar16 » Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:34 pm

As we head into December the Peavine is rather busy. Been walking the dog down by Clare Yard and the tracks have been rather active with grain cars and tankers plus plenty of box cars of late. So it appears that the paper plant in the old Ford plant has been picking up the past few months. I know the new owners are trying to get new business on the line so it appears that they are making some head way which is great for the small line that was nearly dead five years ago.

I talked to one of the workers on Tuesday he said that they are doing some rail work out east opening up a new wye cleaning brush on tracks that haven't been used in years. So the new company is spending money and looking to get more business out east.

Meanwhile looking at the old Clare Yard there are many tankers sitting down here today so they most likely will be heading east later this week.
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Re: NS Peavine talk

Unread postby northstar16 » Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:09 pm

Merry Christmas to all the Peavine fans out there and railfans in Ohio!
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Re: NS Peavine talk

Unread postby heypal6878 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:09 pm

Happy New Year Northstar and to all railfans out there. Northstar thanks for the report! I have been pretty busy in December at work but have had the chance to get out the last week to see a little of the Peavive activity. They continue to be rather busy this winter. I have noticed several cars on siding east of Clare Yard the last few weeks waiting to go east. Looks like they are getting some business from the recycling plant way out east. The paper plant out in Batavia is busy and the Ag is also rather busy. Rail storage is the bread and butter for the Peavine and the new rail company and that continues to do well. Looks like another successful year coming up on the Peavine despite what Midland and his pal have to say.
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Re: NS Peavine talk

Unread postby Toppysager » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:50 pm

I'm new to this thread, and have read through much of the discussion, however there are several questions I still have over some unclear/debated information.

Exactly how far East does the Cincinnati Eastern run? I have heard '68 miles' which would put it just west of Rareden. Is this as far as the line is operated or is the line still serviced into Rareden? I have also heard 'Plum Run' mentioned several times, but have had difficulty triangulating exactly where that is, as I am quite unfamiliar with this territory


Second, when was the last time NS regularly serviced the Peavine with through freights? I heard L51 mentioned as the final train ~2003, but I know that at one point 217 and 218 were indeed routed via the Peavine along with several other road freights. I assume this changed with the Heartland Corridor Project, but I was just wondering if anyone had a precise date, and a list of trains that were scheduled in the final years

Finally, what is the condition of the signalling system? As I understand it most of the signalling system has been out of service since the mid-2000s, but I was curious if ANY N&Ws were still active throughout the system at control points (if any), sidings (if any), or anywhere on the remaining 68-mile segment.


Thanks in advance
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Re: NS Peavine talk

Unread postby scraphauler » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:10 pm

How Far East - Line is in service and leased by CCET to Jaybird Road, which is the road that leads to General Electric Aviation's Peebles OH facility. East of there to Vera is out of service with switch at Vera removed. Out of service portion also has 1 or 2 washout. Last customer is Hanson Aggregates at Plum Run (between "downtown" Peebles and Jaybird Road.) Line is served 4-5 days a week between Clare and Afton, 2-3 days a week as far east at Winchester OH. Nothing east of Winchester for a while now. Service strictly at customers need.

Last NS through freight was 2004. NS continued to run a local from Sharonville as far as Peebles 2004 to early 2014.

Signals are dead - most everything has been stolen. Just masts and heads and some of those incomplete. Those signals will never be active again. No active wayside signals anywhere on CCET - only a handful left of the IORY side in Cincinnati - several of those have been retired and removed.
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Re: NS Peavine talk

Unread postby heypal6878 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:19 pm

Looks like Peavine will be busy Monday or Tuesday. Plenty of cars sitting on the tracts east of Clare Yard
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