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CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby Waddy » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:38 pm

http://www.cpr.ca/en/media/cp-extends-r ... ce-in-asia

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​Canadian Pacific Railway Limited (TSX: CP) (NYSE: CP) today announced a new partnership with Genesee & Wyoming Inc. (G&W) (NYSE: GWR) and Bluegrass Farms of Ohio that will open up the Ohio Valley to CP customers and further extend CP's reach into key North American markets.

CP has an exclusive agreement with Bluegrass Farms of Ohio to use its 90-acre intermodal facility in Jeffersonville, Ohio located strategically on the I-71 corridor with the ability to serve the Columbus, Cincinnati and Dayton markets. The farm consortium will continue to own the facility, and will operate it on behalf of CP. CP has also come to an agreement with G&W, which services the site through its Indiana & Ohio (IORY) line.
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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby penn central » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:52 pm

That is good news. I looked on Google Maps its showing 94 miles to Jeffersonville south of Lima. That's a nice haul for the I&O. And Lima to Chicago is 232 miles looking at Google Maps. Mmm the last time i was to Sugar Street interlocking in Lima was in 2005 there wasn't a wye in the southwest quadrant. They will come up with a plan somehow.
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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby CG Tower » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:21 am

penn central wrote:That is good news. I looked on Google Maps its showing 94 miles to Jeffersonville south of Lima. That's a nice haul for the I&O. And Lima to Chicago is 232 miles looking at Google Maps. Mmm the last time i was to Sugar Street interlocking in Lima was in 2005 there wasn't a wye in the southwest quadrant. They will come up with a plan somehow.


There is already a plan in the works. Surveying has been done for new wye tracks and interlocking at Sugar Street.

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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby penn central » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:16 am

CG Tower wrote:
penn central wrote:That is good news. I looked on Google Maps its showing 94 miles to Jeffersonville south of Lima. That's a nice haul for the I&O. And Lima to Chicago is 232 miles looking at Google Maps. Mmm the last time i was to Sugar Street interlocking in Lima was in 2005 there wasn't a wye in the southwest quadrant. They will come up with a plan somehow.


There is already a plan in the works. Surveying has been done for new wye tracks and interlocking at Sugar Street.

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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby JoJames » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:55 pm

First container for loading is to be spotted by Friday morning. Currently on the IHB in Chicagoland.
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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby bdconrail29 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:10 pm

JoJames wrote:First container for loading is to be spotted by Friday morning. Currently on the IHB in Chicagoland.


What will be the routing from Chicago-Jeffersonville? Thanks!
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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby AARR » Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:48 pm

Another question, is this the CP joint traffic that I seem to reading about somewhere (Trans Mag perhaps?)
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JoJames wrote:First container for loading is to be spotted by Friday morning. Currently on the IHB in Chicagoland.


What will be the routing from Chicago-Jeffersonville? Thanks!
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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby MSchwiebert » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:57 pm

CP Rail to Chicago, Chicago Fort Wayne & Eastern from there to Lima, I&O from Lima to Jeffersonville.

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JoJames wrote:First container for loading is to be spotted by Friday morning. Currently on the IHB in Chicagoland.


What will be the routing from Chicago-Jeffersonville? Thanks!
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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby AARR » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:38 am

Thanks MSchwiebert
MSchwiebert wrote:CP Rail to Chicago, Chicago Fort Wayne & Eastern from there to Lima, I&O from Lima to Jeffersonville.
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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby Plannerdad » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:20 pm

Last time I was in Lima and according to Google, there is no direct connection from the CFE EB to the I&O/CSX SB, without a back-up move. Are they going to construct one or do they connect somewhere else? Thanks- -
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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby JoJames » Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:13 pm

Plannerdad wrote:Last time I was in Lima and according to Google, there is no direct connection from the CFE EB to the I&O/CSX SB, without a back-up move. Are they going to construct one or do they connect somewhere else? Thanks- -


Construction is planned in the very near future.
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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby JoJames » Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:13 pm

Plannerdad wrote:Last time I was in Lima and according to Google, there is no direct connection from the CFE EB to the I&O/CSX SB, without a back-up move. Are they going to construct one or do they connect somewhere else? Thanks- -


Construction is planned in the very near future.
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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby Plannerdad » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:03 pm

Thanks ! Nice to see the old Pennsy main get some more traffic.
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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby JoJames » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:55 pm

I’m thinking the new transfer track was to be built in the northwest quadrant to allow direct access to each yard.
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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby h2466 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:02 pm

JoJames wrote:I’m thinking the new transfer track was to be built in the northwest quadrant to allow direct access to each yard.

SouthWest quadrant.
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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby ELwillie » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:16 pm

Are they going to fill in the quarry on the south west corner. last I heard it was to be built on the north west corner its a short distance to IO s yard run the engines around the train and head south. check Google map. also in the Lima News "project to alleviate rail congestion" a while back.
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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby ELwillie » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:43 pm

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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby bdconrail29 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:28 pm

h2466 wrote:
JoJames wrote:I’m thinking the new transfer track was to be built in the northwest quadrant to allow direct access to each yard.

SouthWest quadrant.


Hmmm. There doesn’t seem to be much room in that quadrant due to the quarry.
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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby h2466 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:21 pm

ELwillie wrote:https://www.limaohio.com/news/248752/project-in-lima-to-address-rail-crossing-congestion

Thanks for the correction. For some reason I thought it was going in the SouthWest quadrant.
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Re: CP to Bluegrass Farms

Unread postby 937TrainFan » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:34 am

Hey all!

Haven't posted on here in what seems like forever, surprised I still knew my login info! But I figured I'd offer my insight on the topic.

Firstly, the bluegrass farms facility specializes in many different forms of soy bean distribution, but the interest in intermodal comes from a neat and proven "goods in - beans out" scenario. Through the port of Vancouver and through a contract with K-Line, bluegrass will be bringing in finished goods from overseas for market to the growing distribution market of Central and SW Ohio. Then Bluegrass will be taking the containers and filling them with either palletized soy beans or filled completely with special plastic lined containers. These beans are food grade and some of the best in the world, which makes the deal great for all parties involved.

As stated before me, CP will be bringing the containers to the CFE in Chicago, then the containers will be tacked onto the usual Chicago-Ft. Wayne-Lima Trains. Also as stated previously, the quarry prevents a SW quadrant from being built at sugar street, so the train will make a quick maneuver and pit stop at the Ford Park yard before making it's trip to Konrad and eventually Blue Grass.

Due to bridge clearance issues, the containers will be single stack until the IORY finishes their undercutting of 3 bridges in Springfield. Initially, there shouldn't be too many well cars as CP and G&W are in the test phase of this new relationship, but once the Lima and Springfield improvement projects are complete there is a high possibility of future doublestack unit trains down the PRR and DT&I. Great stuff!

All of this was possible due to some great work by G&W and the State Rail Commission. A great project to bring more competition to a growing market in Ohio!

Two things to note before I end: Bluegrass Farms had already been sending their containers to Asia through NS at Rickenbacker, so these guys have some good experience already. Also, this market is unfortunately going to be affected by the tariffs, so hopefully all parties can figure a solution out to get this good deal going.

Be safe out there y'all!
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