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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby justalurker66 » Sat May 13, 2017 11:12 am

I stopped by Milford on Friday ... Thanks for noting that the trailers are gone. It appears that the work on the diamond has not yet been started.
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby LakeATCS » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:30 pm

Cut over should be rather soon.
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby justalurker66 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:31 am

LakeATCS wrote:Cut over should be rather soon.

The signal north of Milford (9S/9N) is cut over. I did not look in New Paris. The NB signal at Milford is still PRR. I only saw one red SB but the other could have been blocked by trees. (I passed through after dark around 8:30pm.) Leesburg and the intermediates are untouched.
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby LakeATCS » Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:30 am

Because of the age of the stuff they are replacing. (OLD and I mean OLD). Cut over will be messy. It won't be as clean as the others.

Hell they can't even get into the bungalow at 21 easy. When the car hit it they welded a plate over the door.
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby LakeATCS » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:13 pm

Cut over bulletin put out today, trains annulled tomorrow after 8am
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby justalurker66 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:44 am

LakeATCS wrote:Cut over bulletin put out today, trains annulled tomorrow after 8am

How far south? Just Milford? One or both Leesburgs? Warsaw?
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby LakeATCS » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:37 pm

They cut over everything north of Warsaw but NOT Warsaw.
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby justalurker66 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:34 pm

LakeATCS wrote:They cut over everything north of Warsaw but NOT Warsaw.

I drove past late Sunday (I was out of town this weekend). The intermediates are now normal CTC not reflecting the direction of traffic. (16S approach, 16N clear, 14S clear, 14N approach, 9S approach, 9N clear, 6S clear, 6N approach when no trains present and nothing cleared to enter the line.) In the past I have never seen both sides of these signal give a less than restricting signal at the same time. One side was normally "Restricting" (intermediate) while the other was clear, approach or restricting. (I assume when a train is actually cleared opposing signals will drop to Restricting as seen in modern installations.)

Warsaw was displaying "Approach" on the SB signal when I went past (11pm ET?). I did not see a train south of Leesburg approaching Warsaw (I could have missed it).

New signals in place as you note and heavy concrete blocks around the signal cabinets at CP 21 so the next errant car shouldn't hit the cabinet (unless it is a very bad accident).
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby LakeATCS » Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:55 pm

Warsaw part of next cutover. Maybe next week.
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby justalurker66 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:42 pm

LakeATCS wrote:Warsaw part of next cutover. Maybe next week.

Cool.

The addition of Milford Jct adds good resolution. I chased a train NB this evening and it appears that the four blocks line up nicely with the signals (advance, approach, diamond, approach, advance). I believe there is an error with train direction on the CSX tracks, The new display was showing an Eastbound on Track 2 while a Westbound on Track 1 was clearing the diamond. I didn't have a lot of time to wait for additional trains.

NS 1111 led one of the northbound trains. It was nice to catch new signals and a special unit!
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby LakeATCS » Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:05 pm

Thanks. I wondered about that. I will get things rotated.
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby justalurker66 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:04 am

Even sitting there watching the train roll by it can be confusing. :)

BTW: I believe K33 and K34 at Milford are 1NXK and 1SXK for NS respectively. Those bits were following the bits at CP 3 and CP 19 yesterday.
K15 seems to be the same as K14 at CP 3. I had some interesting active text scripts that I had to remove from my personal layout now the "3BK" bits are unused. I'd like to confirm how far south 1NAK goes. (It no longer goes active for a northbound crossing the diamond.)
But the work continues - maybe I should wait until NS is done before looking further.
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby justalurker66 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:40 pm

Photos taken Monday ...
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CP Milford Jct
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9S as NS 1111 leads a train northbound
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby LakeATCS » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:56 pm

I posted an update that has that stuff.
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby Dajudge » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:16 am

Drove down to Connersville Saturday and noticed signals between Wabash and Marion along Ind-15 still old school. Whitewater Valley still dark (joke).
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby LakeATCS » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:15 pm

Dajudge wrote:Drove down to Connersville Saturday and noticed signals between Wabash and Marion along Ind-15 still old school. Whitewater Valley still dark (joke).



Wabash to Marion was done by Conrail just before the de-merger in the very late 90s. Should be G heads except for CP 78 and CP 79
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby justalurker66 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:56 pm

LakeATCS wrote:
Dajudge wrote:Drove down to Connersville Saturday and noticed signals between Wabash and Marion along Ind-15 still old school. Whitewater Valley still dark (joke).

Wabash to Marion was done by Conrail just before the de-merger in the very late 90s. Should be G heads except for CP 78 and CP 79

True. I remember the PC position signals between Wabash and Marion back in the 90s. With the level of traffic south of Wabash the G heads should survive.

Perhaps some day CP 78 and CP 79 will get new signals. Until then, we can enjoy seeing this CP signal (eastbound at CP 79).
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby LakeATCS » Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:40 pm

There are plans for that section too.

Sadly CR used the same PTC incompatible tech with this section too. So the G heads have to be replaced. CP 78 is moving to 75 as a holdout. 79 replaced in place.
This section however has suffered some kick the can down the road stuff, it's been put off so many times it's not funny. Its at least a couple three years down the road.
The maintainers got tired of maintaining the 78 CR era data link, so it was put on ATCS.

If everything goes to plan, oldest signals on the line will be the late 90s signals at CP 58 and the intermediate put in at the same date between CP 58 and CP 54. These were put in by NS crews.
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby justalurker66 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:40 am

Any word on CP 24?
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Re: Norfolk Southern Marion Branch

Unread postby LakeATCS » Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:54 pm

justalurker66 wrote:Any word on CP 24?



Warsaw? It's in the works when time and personnel allow.
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