CSX Plymouth Sub blocks question

[GrandTrunkFan]

With all fo CSX's converting the signals to the new style and all, the CSX Michigan websites have changed with them. I can only find the names of the Lake O to Cash blocks. Can someone give me a list of all the blocks on the Plymouth Sub? Thanks!

[Norm]

Table 73. DTC Block Limits
Between Location/Mile Post
CH90.0 WEDT Ensel and CH97.8 East switch Grand Ledge Siding Cash
CH97.8 East switch Grand Ledge Siding
CH99.1 West switch Grand Ledge Siding Ledge
CH99.1 West switch Grand Ledge Siding
and CH111.0 East switch Sunfield Siding Field
CH111.0, East switch Sunfield Siding
and CH112.3 West switch Sunfield Siding Jordan
CH112.3 West switch Sunfield Siding and
CH120.4 East switch Lake Odessa Siding Lako

[sd70accsxt700]

Thats all there is. All 5 blocks. There are "blocks" for the entire railroad from end to end, but they only get used when there is a suspenson of the signal system.

If you are refering to the control point signals, the ones that come down and new ones put up, they for the most part are in the same exact place. Mabey a few changes, but I would expect mabey only one out of 100, if that.

[GrandTrunkFan]

So even before the new signals it was only 5 blocks? I didnt know that. The only reason I ask though is because Im making the End/Begin DTC signs for my route and the ones Ive seen have 4 signs on one post. So then, would Lake O's sign simply have 2 signs with one being "End Lake O DTC Block" on one side and "Begin Lake O DTC Block" on the other?

[sd70accsxt700]

The two signs should be back to back (four on one post)

The should say for example

End Ledge
DTC Block

Begin Field
DTC Block

Then on the opposit side it should say


End Field
DTC Block


Begin Ledge
DTC Block

[csxt4617]

You mean like this

Made those for Trainz, they act like signals, except they have no actual lights (it keeps the trains apart on the AI as if they were clear/approach/stop)

[sd70accsxt700]

Yes only if you ran around the other side of the sign (looking the opposit way you are now, it would read the opposit. It would say

END
Jordan
DTC Block

Begin
Lako
DTC block

All on the same pole.

[csxt4617]

Actually, it does. It's two separate objects (one signal for each direction). Each one has a top sign facing one way, and a bottom facing the other. One would be named LAKO in the above picture, the other JORDAN. On the back side, it says END JORDAN DTC BLOCK and BEGIN LAKO DTC BLOCK

[sd70accsxt700]

Mabey its just the train simulater, then, cause it looks like it is only two signs facing one way. The other looks to be down the tracks 500' or so. In real life they (all 4) would be on the same pole.

[csxt4617]

Mabey its just the train simulater, then, cause it looks like it is only two signs facing one way. The other looks to be down the tracks 500' or so. In real life they (all 4) would be on the same pole.

It's probably just the angle. I can assure you there's two sets of them there (occupying the same spot)...without scripting (which I don't know how to do), you can only give an object one name, which is used as the custom lettering on the sign. One is named LAKO, the other is named JORDAN. There is another one down the track a ways...that was just a test setup to try them out. But I gave them names I was familiar with Also, the way it's set up, one has to be left hand, and one right hand, to get them to be on the same side of the track. If you line the two of them up right, you only see one pole.

[GrandTrunkFan]

Heres mine:



Still got to do the rest.

[sd70accsxt700]

Yes Sir's verry good. Must have been the angle of the screen shot. Didnt look like four, looked like they were down the track. That also explains the other set of signs.

[sd70accsxt700]

I dont suppose any of you are going to do one for Toledo to Saginaw? I dont have MTS or any other but those could mabey make me do it.

[csxt4617]

I dont suppose any of you are going to do one for Toledo to Saginaw? I dont have MTS or any other but those could mabey make me do it.

I don't know about Nicks, but mine aren't for any specific one. You custom name them as you place them in the game, so they can be anything you want them to be. Although I never uploaded mine to the Trainz download site, so they aren't available anyway

[GrandTrunkFan]

Im pretty much foccused on Plymouth-Grand Rapids in terms of MSTS work. Since theres only 5 blocks, Itll save me some work.

So would the signs be set up like this:

Sign 1
End Lake O DTC Block (Other side) Begin Lake O DTC Block

Sign 2
End Lake O DTC Block (Other side) End Jordan DTC Block
Begin Jordan DTC Block Begin Lake O DTC Block

Sign 3
End Jordan DTC Block (Other side) End Field Jordan DTC Block
Begin Field DTC Block Begin Jordan DTC Block

Sign 4 (Shown)
End Field DTC Block (Other side) End Ledge Jordan DTC Block
Begin Ledge DTC Block Begin Field DTC Block

Sign 4
End Ledge DTC Block (Other side) End Cash Jordan DTC Block
Begin Cash DTC Block Begin Ledge DTC Block

Sign 1
End Cash DTC Block (Other side) Begin Cash DTC Block

[sd70accsxt700]

Yes you have it. A couple of things. You cant End blocks in both directions. If your example is running eastbound from GR to Lansing, you would Begin Lako first. Second, im sure they are typeagraphical errors, but some say both block names in the end side. And last (and I will have to double check this) but I believe that, the top sign will always be Begin (on both sides) with the bottom sign being End (on both sides), like so.

This is in a eastbound direction

Begin
Lako
DTC Block

(other side)

End
Lako
DTC Block


Next Signs


Begin
Jordan
DTC Block

End
Lako
DTC Block

(other side)

Begin
Lako
DTC Block

End
Jordan
DTC Block


Next Signs


Begin
Field
DTC Block

End
Jordan
DTC Block


(other side)


Begin
Jordan
DTC Block

End
Field
DTC Block


ect. ect. ect.

[Norm]

[And last (and I will have to double check this) but I believe that, the top sign will always be Begin (on both sides) with the bottom sign being End (on both sides), like so.

This is in a eastbound direction

Begin
Lako
DTC Block

(other side)

End
Lako
DTC Block


Next Signs


Begin
Jordan
DTC Block

End
Lako
DTC Block

(other side)

Begin
Lako
DTC Block

End
Jordan
DTC Block


Next Signs


Begin
Field
DTC Block

End
Jordan
DTC Block


(other side)


Begin
Jordan
DTC Block

End
Field
DTC Block


ect. ect. ect.[/quote]

And I was in Grand Ledge yesterday. Saw the sign, but didn't think to get a picture of it.

[GrandTrunkFan]

Thanks for the help guys! I got pics of the Grand Ledge and Sunfield signs already.

[csxt4617]

Thanks for the help guys! I got pics of the Grand Ledge and Sunfield signs already.

Do they have the END on top or bottom? I don't know that I've ever photographed either one. I designed my DTC signs based on photos I had of other signs, which, all but one had the END on top and BEGIN on the bottom.