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Trwatcher Films - R337 Paced along M121

Unread postPosted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:36 pm
by trnwatcher
Here is a video I shot back in 1994 of R337 from Jenison MI to Zeeland MI along Chicago Dr (M121).


Re: Trwatcher Films - R337 Paced along M121

Unread postPosted: Fri May 08, 2020 4:31 pm
by MQT1223
So what was R337?

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Unread postPosted: Fri May 08, 2020 5:17 pm
by ~Z~
MQT1223 wrote:So what was R337?

Here's some good archived info on R337 and other old trains on CSX: http://www.railroadfan.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11712

Re: Trwatcher Films - R337 Paced along M121

Unread postPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 10:26 am
by SD80MAC
R336/337, later Q336/337, were Chicago to Flint (Saginaw?) and return via Grand Rapids.

Re: Trwatcher Films - R337 Paced along M121

Unread postPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 3:28 pm
by trnwatcher
If I remember correctly 336/337 were BRC/Clearing to Saginaw trains. Most of their traffic was from Dow in Midland and auto related traffic from Saginaw and Flint.

Re: Trwatcher Films - R337 Paced along M121

Unread postPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 9:46 pm
by hoborich
Pretty cool hearing the engines notch up and down.

Re: Trwatcher Films - R337 Paced along M121

Unread postPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 11:39 pm
by MQT1223
trnwatcher wrote:If I remember correctly 336/337 were BRC/Clearing to Saginaw trains. Most of their traffic was from Dow in Midland and auto related traffic from Saginaw and Flint.


So CSX was still heavily invested in Saginaw and McGrew at this time? Thats a hell of a run from Flint to Clearing...

Re: Trwatcher Films - R337 Paced along M121

Unread postPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:04 am
by Saturnalia
MQT1223 wrote:
trnwatcher wrote:If I remember correctly 336/337 were BRC/Clearing to Saginaw trains. Most of their traffic was from Dow in Midland and auto related traffic from Saginaw and Flint.


So CSX was still heavily invested in Saginaw and McGrew at this time? Thats a hell of a run from Flint to Clearing...

336/337 lasted well into the 2000s. Flint didn't really go completely to crap until the closing of Buick City and the Great Recession.

Until the 2000s via GR you had 326/327 as Chicago-Detroit trains, 334/335 were Chicago-Toledo and 336/337 were Chicago-Flint. All had scheduled crew changes in GR. These trains all had predecessors going back to the C&O and PM of course with different numbers and symbols.

All of these trains would recrew in GR.

Re: Trwatcher Films - R337 Paced along M121

Unread postPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 7:31 am
by C&O Dispatcher
Here are the symbols for the manifest trains running when I first started dispatching in Saginaw. This, of course, does not include locals, road switchers, coal and grain.

Re: Trwatcher Films - R337 Paced along M121

Unread postPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 9:11 am
by C&O Dispatcher
Here's a link to a pdf file I created of the whole Chessie (C&O) S&C book, if anyone is interested:

Re: Trwatcher Films - R337 Paced along M121

Unread postPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 9:13 am
by C&O Dispatcher
Tried to upload the file link, but I guess it didn't work!

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Unread postPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 9:39 am
by C&O Dispatcher

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Unread postPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:18 pm
by geeb557
Great post Doug. Thank you. Books from the late 70's have eluded me. I see at this time C&O and B&O still maintained separate books. Any idea when they combined into one book? Also did Chessie ever have a binder for their freight schedules from the 70's-80's or did they just use a plain 3 ring binder?

Re: Trwatcher Films - R337 Paced along M121

Unread postPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:40 pm
by C&O Dispatcher
Regarding S&C books -- don't believe C&O and B&O ever made it into one book. The only one I ever saw was the one I posted and was kept in the chief dispatcher's office. Cover is complete with coffee cup stains and other smudges! I can still detect the aroma of cigarette ash on the original, as well! Chessie, of course, got the requisite eyes, nose and smile! The first consolidated issue that I know of was after CSX changed most all of the train symbols in 1987 and to strictly numeric. CSX first used the "R" prefix for manifest trains. That was later changed to "Q".

Re: Trwatcher Films - R337 Paced along M121

Unread postPosted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:48 pm
by KVERBERK
Nice Video
And thanks to C&O dispatcher for the additional information.