Southern RR low nose motive power

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Southern RR low nose motive power

Unread postby kd_1014 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:18 pm

Obviously other than the F and E units, Did the Southern Railway have any low nose locomotives? I just found out today that they had high-hood Dash-7s which I thought was pretty neat.
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Re: Southern RR low nose motive power

Unread postby cr6903 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:07 pm

The Southern Railway purchased nothing with a low hood, clear to the Norfolk Southern Merger. Their last new locomotives in Southern paint were the GP50's, I believe. Norfolk Southern purchased SD60's sublettered for the Southern, but they were delivered in NS paint.

When the Southern absorbed the original Norfolk Southern, the original NS rostered Baldwins (retired shortly after merger), GP38's and GP18's with factory low noses. When they got Southern paint, they also were high hooded!

The only "Southern" low nose unit was the Commemorative GP60, 4610.

While they didn't have a lot of GE's, they were all High hood as well.
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Re: Southern RR low nose motive power

Unread postby MQT1223 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:15 pm

I think it had something to do with the Unions and safety which kept the Southern ordering High Hood units long after most railroads abandoned them. Even the N&W had ordered their last batch of SD40-2's and an order of SD50's with low hoods, after being a predominantly high hood railroad.

Granted the N&W had units from the Wabash and NKP with Low Noses and High Noses.
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Re: Southern RR low nose motive power

Unread postby DaveO » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:40 pm

MQT1223 wrote:I think it had something to do with the Unions and safety which kept the Southern ordering High Hood units long after most railroads abandoned them. Even the N&W had ordered their last batch of SD40-2's and an order of SD50's with low hoods, after being a predominantly high hood railroad.

Granted the N&W had units from the Wabash and NKP with Low Noses and High Noses.


The long hood was the front of the engine for Southern. What purpose would it have served to get a low nose on the back end of the locomotive :?:
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Re: Southern RR low nose motive power

Unread postby MQT1223 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:31 am

DaveO wrote:
MQT1223 wrote:I think it had something to do with the Unions and safety which kept the Southern ordering High Hood units long after most railroads abandoned them. Even the N&W had ordered their last batch of SD40-2's and an order of SD50's with low hoods, after being a predominantly high hood railroad.

Granted the N&W had units from the Wabash and NKP with Low Noses and High Noses.


The long hood was the front of the engine for Southern. What purpose would it have served to get a low nose on the back end of the locomotive :?:


Some of the later engines had dual control stands.

Never said that the railroad had to make sense.
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Re: Southern RR low nose motive power

Unread postby AARR » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:13 pm

I read an article in Trains Mag that, along with safety, another reason for the long hood forward was because it was easier for the engineer to see going backward with the short hood.
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