Wurtsmith AFB

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Re: Wurtsmith AFB

Unread postby rustbeltrailroad » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:58 pm

AARR wrote:Someone contacted me off line and said that the jet fuel may have been loaded in Bay City and shuttled by D&M to Wurtsmith.

Maybe it arrived by ship to one of the storage tank terminals on D&M's shoreline spur :? .


I have also heard this before somewhere years ago. The tracks in the area that would be the loading area just west/north of the yard don't look too old. That is a very secluded area which may explain the mystery.
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Re: Wurtsmith AFB

Unread postby Standard Railfan » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:06 pm

AARR wrote:The jet fuel tank cars may have been traveling between the refinery in Alma and Wurtsmith. On at least one occasion they were trucking the jet fuel but eventually it went back to D&M.
rustbeltrailroad wrote:I think, again I think, many of the tanks in this service were loaded in Bay City on the D&M by where DOW is and all the relics of that area. And they just went back and fourth to Wurtsmith AFB / Bay City.


I don't believe that the Total / Leonard refinery in Alma could manufacture Jet Fuel. If the Alma refinery could make Jet A / JP-4 I doubt that they could make enough to meet Wurtsmith's needs.
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Re: Wurtsmith AFB

Unread postby fmilhaupt » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:04 am

Standard Railfan wrote:I don't believe that the Total / Leonard refinery in Alma could manufacture Jet Fuel. If the Alma refinery could make Jet A / JP-4 I doubt that they could make enough to meet Wurtsmith's needs.


I recall reading somewhere that the Crystal Flash(?) refinery along the GTW in Carson City produced jet fuel. But it was a pretty small refinery.
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Re: Wurtsmith AFB

Unread postby AARR » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:22 am

I found, and copied, all the products Total Refinery in Alma made. Jet fuel is on it. However, I cannot confirm the accuracy of the material. Also, as SRF pointed out it was a small percentage of what they refined. I'll repost it here later.
Standard Railfan wrote:I don't believe that the Total / Leonard refinery in Alma could manufacture Jet Fuel. If the Alma refinery could make Jet A / JP-4 I doubt that they could make enough to meet Wurtsmith's needs.
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Re: Wurtsmith AFB

Unread postby Doktor No » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:25 pm

Jet fuel is just clear diesel for the most part. Total/Leonard should have/would have no problem making it. Just depends on where you open the valve on the cracking tower. Asphalt comes out the bottom and it keeps getting better the farther up the tower you go. Not quite that simple but that's the gist of it. We got a lot of asphalt tanks out of there and we also got Aviation Gasoline that went to a base/airport in Utah when I was on 337/336.
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Re: Wurtsmith AFB

Unread postby AARR » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:55 pm

I was mistaken. The chart is not about Total specifically but by refineries in general.

The specific Total in Alma information I have is regarding its production capacity. It processed 2.31 million gallons of oil per day into 2.475 million gallons of product.

What Does One Barrel Of Crude Oil Make? One barrel of crude oil contains 42 gallons which creates 45 gallons of petroleum products
Product Share of Total U.S. Petroleum Consumption
Gasoline 47%
Heating Oil/Diesel Fuel 20%
Jet Fuel (Kerosene) 8%
Propane/Propylene 6%
Natural Gas Liquids and Liquid Refinery Gases 6%
Still Gas 4%
Petrochemical Feedstock 2%
Petroleum Coke 2%
Residual/Heavy Fuel Oil 2%
Asphalt and Road Oil 2%
Lubricants 1%
Miscellaneous Products 0.4%
Other Liquids 0.4%
Aviation Gasoline 0.1%
Special Naphtha 0.04%
Waxes 0.04%
Kerosene 0.02%
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Re: Wurtsmith AFB

Unread postby hoborich » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:56 pm

Speaking of Leonard gasoline, how many remember Leonard gasoline sponsored Mort Neff and Michigan Outdoors?
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