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Train Location Updates

Unread postby Saturnalia » Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:31 pm

I suggest that we change the titles of all threads in the TLU section to be titled as "Category, Effective Date(s)".

Currently, there is a mix of names, most of which are redundant. "CSX Train Location Updates" is redundant because we already know that that thread is TLUs because it is in that forum.

Thus, it could be "CSX 1-1-15". Much shorter, much less redundant.

It would follow protocol then, for the rest:

"CN 12-28 to 1-3"
"Michigan Shortlines January 2015"
"Ann Arbor January 2015"
"Conrail January 2015"

Etc, for anything we decide to have a category for.

Note, I also suggest Conrail updates be monthly or quarterly, so as to be better archived, instead of this long-running thread.

I realize that this is not an "issue" per se, but rather a motion to standardize and reduce irrelevancy...lower the operating ratio, so to speak. :)
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby GreatLakesRailfan » Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:47 pm

I like Alex's first thought. More than once I've piggybacked on an older CN updates thread because I didn't want to type everything out on my mobile internet device required for the thread title.

Not so sure about the rest of it though...
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby ConrailMan5 » Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:24 pm

Truthfully I don't really understand why CSX is done daily. Weekly or monthly, like everything else, should suffice. But I digress.

The reason the updates is added is to clarify that that is the general updates thread vs some other special move IMHO.
For instance under your system CSX 1/15-1/22 would not be as easily discernable from CSX OCS 1/15.

And you are saving literally 9 characters in type by switching to your system Alex. For clarity's sake I think the current system is fine, even if it is redundant based on forum title.
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby Saturnalia » Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:33 pm

ConrailMan5 wrote:Truthfully I don't really understand why CSX is done daily. Weekly or monthly, like everything else, should suffice. But I digress.

CSX is daily due to the sheer volume of the posts - often more than 20 per day. The others don't get that sort of volume so they're kept over longer periods based on use.
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby trnwatcher » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:48 pm

I suggest we leave it as it is. It seems to work just fine.
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby SD80MAC » Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:56 pm

No need to fix something that isn't broken.
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby AARR » Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:22 pm

There are a few threads that are so long they are hard to follow including Conrail and a couple in the Ohio Board (CF&E and ND&W come to mind). I wouldn't mind seeing them broken up just so it's easier to find older information in them.
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby Saturnalia » Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:31 pm

AARR wrote:There are a few threads that are so long they are hard to follow including Conrail and a couple in the Ohio Board (CF&E and ND&W come to mind). I wouldn't mind seeing them broken up just so it's easier to find older information in them.

IMHO, those threads should be divided up by year, or even half-years. "ND&W 2014", "CF&E Jan-June 2015", etc
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby Jetlink » Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:33 pm

It seems to be up to the person who starts the thread what to call it. I think copy- pasting and changing the date is the norm. If the longer threads need to be broken up; then the person who wants to do it should break it up, by starting a new thread at the appropriate time. We don't need to caucus. Just do it. If it makes sense it will stick.
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby Jochs » Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:57 am

With firefox, and windows7, I just type 'C' and the rest of the title appears, and I just change one number usually...not that hard.
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby Bulby » Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:46 am

MQT, if you want to change it, perhaps when you are the first one to post an update for a category, YOU write it as you want it and if it catches on, good. If not, oh well. Discussing it doesn't do more than net negativity.
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby Saturnalia » Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:58 am

I've tried just doing "CSX TLUs (date)" before, but each time somebody starts another thread with the same date. I'm not sure how that happens, but apparently shortening the title when I make the thread doesn't work!

I'm not gonna lose sleep over it...it is just a suggestion. :)
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby PatAzo » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:37 pm

MQT3001 wrote:CSX is daily due to the sheer volume of the posts - often more than 20 per day. The others don't get that sort of volume so they're kept over longer periods based on use.


The low volume in the short line thread is in part due to several railroads being mixed into one thread. People who don't want to wade through the posts on multiple railroads don't bother to post there either. Give the major short lines their own thread and I'd wager you'll see an increase in the updates.
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby Jochs » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:04 am

Saturnalia wrote:I suggest that we change the titles of all threads in the TLU section to be titled as "Category, Effective Date(s)".

Currently, there is a mix of names, most of which are redundant. "CSX Train Location Updates" is redundant because we already know that that thread is TLUs because it is in that forum.

Thus, it could be "CSX 1-1-15". Much shorter, much less redundant.

It would follow protocol then, for the rest:

"CN 12-28 to 1-3"
"Michigan Shortlines January 2015"
"Ann Arbor January 2015"
"Conrail January 2015"

If people are so worried about the length, why type out "01/04/2017" instead of "1/4/17?" We know what year it is, and the date and time you entered the post appears at the beginning of the post.
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby Todd_F » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:43 am

Saturnalia wrote:
ConrailMan5 wrote:Truthfully I don't really understand why CSX is done daily. Weekly or monthly, like everything else, should suffice. But I digress.

CSX is daily due to the sheer volume of the posts - often more than 20 per day. The others don't get that sort of volume so they're kept over longer periods based on use.
Ironic, considering it's a RR that only runs a couple trains daily in the entire state. The sheer amount of CSX Daily Updates on that page has become off-putting, to me. Not sure why it can't be monthly - some boards threads I frequent have thousands of posts in them, I'm still not sure why CSX threads can't grow that large here?? Even at 20 posts per day, that's not a huge number over a months time.
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby ~Z~ » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:14 am

We'll give the CSX monthly train location updates a try for this month at least and see how it goes. Here's the new thread for CSX April: http://railroadfan.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=34900
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby AARR » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:16 am

~Z~, why doesn't this thread belong in Train Location Updates :?
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby trnwatcher » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:44 am

~Z~ wrote:We'll give the CSX monthly train location updates a try for this month at least and see how it goes. Here's the new thread for CSX April: http://railroadfan.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=34900

I'm voicing my disapproval of this. I'll live with what ever the general consensus is but I've always liked the individual days. No trolling trough pages upon pages of stuff looking up something from a week or even a few days ago.
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby Saturnalia » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:52 am

trnwatcher wrote:
~Z~ wrote:We'll give the CSX monthly train location updates a try for this month at least and see how it goes. Here's the new thread for CSX April: http://railroadfan.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=34900

I'm voicing my disapproval of this. I'll live with what ever the general consensus is but I've always liked the individual days. No trolling trough pages upon pages of stuff looking up something from a week or even a few days ago.

Right. All the others are monthly because they don't get the traffic the CSX ones do. Us GR folks, which are the main "base" of the site, do TLUs more intensive than anybody else, it seems.

I guess we can see how long the monthly thread gets, but if it's longer than a half dozen pages, I suggest reverting back to daily.
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Re: Train Location Updates

Unread postby trnwatcher » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:58 pm

Saturnalia wrote:I guess we can see how long the monthly thread gets, but if it's longer than a half dozen pages, I suggest reverting back to daily.

it's at 13 pages now with 11 more days to go.
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