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Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:09 am
by arty flowers
Does this spell the end of major steelmaking in Detroit? What parts are closing permanently? What will stay operating? What does the future hold for Zug Island as this is a major railroad customer in the Detroit area.
https://windsorstar.com/news/local-news ... hin-weeks/
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:23 am
by Saturnalia
arty flowers wrote:Does this spell the end of major steelmaking in Detroit? What parts are closing permanently? What will stay operating? What does the future hold for Zug Island as this is a major railroad customer in the Detroit area.
https://windsorstar.com/news/local-news ... hin-weeks/
AK Dearborn looks set to continue onward. I guess it depends on your definition of "Detroit"
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:36 am
by GP30M4216
Theres are two parts to every integrated steelmaking facility: the "primary" side, where raw ingredients are combined and fired to produce raw pig iron, and the "secondary" side, where the product is shaped/formed/finished for customer use. In this case, the entire primary side and portions of the secondary are closing. Primary would include the blast furnaces and basic oxygen furnaces, so almost all of the activity on the Zug Island side would cease, including the operation of the "bottle trains" between Zug and Ecorse. The island won't be completely quiet. The coke oven operation at the south end of the island is owned by Detroit Edison and is not closing. Coke is produced here for several other steel mills.
According to the Great Lakes Works facility webpage, GLW includes:
PRODUCTION FACILITIES
Three blast vessels
Two top-blown basic oxygen process (BOP) vessels
Vacuum degasser
Ladle metallurgy facility
Two continuous slab casters
80" Hot strip mill
80" Pickle line
80" 5-Stand Cold reduction mill
Batch annealing facility
80" Temper mill
73" Hot-dip galvanizing line
Great Lakes Works, situated along the Detroit River in the communities of Ecorse and River Rouge, Mich., consists of both steelmaking and finishing facilities. Products manufactured at the plant include hot-rolled, cold-rolled and coated sheet steels that are used primarily by customers in the automotive industry.
Great Lakes Works has an annual raw steelmaking capability of approximately 3.8 million net tons.
https://www.ussteel.com/locations/great-lakes-works
Some finishing operations will continue in Ecorse, according to the article: "A skeleton staff will remain on duty at Great lakes Works to handle remaining work or “additional operations” that will include what’s known as the Pickle Line, Cold Mill, Sheet Temper Mill, Continuous Galvanizing Line (CGL), Annealing and warehousing. ... The hot strip mill will continue for now but be idled by the end of the year."
Basically, the primary side will be replaced by steel slabs and/or coils coming from the Gary Works, so someone (NS or CN?) might get an uptick in traffic. But the Delray Connecting work will be drastically reduced, and there will be far fewer freighters calling at the island.
As Saturnalia mentioned, AK Dearborn Rouge Steel continues to operate its fully integrated works. In fact, AK just merged with iron ore pellet producer Cliffs Mining, and it's been said that the Dearborn facility is an important component of the new company, so fingers-crossed that's a good sign.
But you won't see this anymore:
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:09 am
by Robertrains
arty flowers wrote:Does this spell the end of major steelmaking in Detroit? What parts are closing permanently? What will stay operating? What does the future hold for Zug Island as this is a major railroad customer in the Detroit area.
https://windsorstar.com/news/local-news ... hin-weeks/
OK, this topic has been brought up by Cinderpath on December 20, 2019: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=36924 However, I went "Railfanning" once again near Belanger Park, River Rouge (my first time here was 11-30-2013)!!!! For 2020, I went on January 19, February 9, and March 1st!!!! Each of those times I caught the great Delray Connecting® "Hot Bottle Trains!!!!" Does anyone here know how many locomotives Delray Connecting® currently owns? I have not seen any of their "Yellow" engines recently, just one "Blue" one!!!! Does anyone know when the "Last" day of operation of those trains will be? Sometime in April? I am guessing that since the plants will be "Idled"....all those "Bottle" cars will stay stored at the closed plants. I hope these "Hot" trains will come back!!!!
My first DC "Hot Bottle Train" I saw was with "Yellow" MP15DC #372, January 26, 2014 (Mamiya RB 67 Medium Format camera):
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=3788783
My second time was with "Yellow" SW1001 #64, April 6, 2015 (Mamiya C220 Medium Format camera..wish I used higher ASA film):
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5288737
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5288740
These next four shots are from February 9, 2020 with "Blue" DC SW1200 #65 (Canon T-90 35mm camera):
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5289011
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5289013
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5289017
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5289023
My last time (as of this post) was on March 1, 2020 with "Blue" DC SW1200 #65 (Pentax 645 Medium Format camera):
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5289027
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:38 am
by LansingRailFan
Saw on fb in Michigan Railfans someone posted that the last bottle train ran yesterday? They are done.
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:42 pm
by Robertrains
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:59 pm
by Henry F. Burger
Last photo Northwest corner of 80 inch mill
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:33 am
by MiddleMI
Are there any good maps out there showing this line and its' branches?
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:25 am
by Robertrains
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:03 am
by Garry K
I used to ride the Bob-Lo boats when they used to go to Bob-Lo Island. When you would return to Detroit on a boat at night, sometimes you could see them dumping slag on/near Zug Island. It was cool at night. Naturally, back then (1960s/1970s) we had no way to film that at night, not effectively, anyway.
Also, Dick Purtan, the long-time Detroit-area DJ, used to have "contests" on his radio show. One of the regular "prizes" he would award to winners was a 1-week vacation to Zug Island. The 2nd-place prize was a 2-week vacation to Zug Island!
Garry K
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:49 pm
by Fred
Sure miss Dick Purtan !!!
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:31 pm
by AARR
Garry K wrote:Also, Dick Purtan, the long-time Detroit-area DJ, used to have "contests" on his radio show. One of the regular "prizes" he would award to winners was a 1-week vacation to Zug Island. The 2nd-place prize was a 2-week vacation to Zug Island!
Garry K
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:12 am
by fmilhaupt
Back in college, we used to refer to anyone who loudly proclaimed an over-inflated view of their talents or accomplishments as a Zug Island Prom King (or Prom Queen). Especially in situations where the bar for competence was low.
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:11 pm
by Raildudes dad
Some of us heavy industry geeks would like a week or 2 exploring Zug Island and observing all the operations. My favorite part of Amtrak GR to Chicago is Hammond, Gary and South Chicago.
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:05 pm
by Saturnalia
Raildudes dad wrote:Some of us heavy industry geeks would like a week or 2 exploring Zug Island and observing all the operations. My favorite part of Amtrak GR to Chicago is Hammond, Gary and South Chicago.
Right?
Dream tour, if I could tour anywhere in the world, would be a large integrated steel mill. Dream trip would be to start at the iron ore mine, say the Tilden Mine, then ride the train down to the dock and watch loading onto the ships from the dock. Then board the boat and ride down to say AK steel, and then get a tour of the plant. Let me film it and I'll do a documentary called "The Complete Life of an Iron Ore Pellet"
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:58 am
by AARR
A few years ago a company I was working for was bidding on their cleaning services and a group of us contractors walked their buildings. Took about 4-5 hours IIRC. Our host was kind enough to answer some of the questions about their operations and rail activity.
Saturnalia wrote:Raildudes dad wrote:Some of us heavy industry geeks would like a week or 2 exploring Zug Island and observing all the operations. My favorite part of Amtrak GR to Chicago is Hammond, Gary and South Chicago.
Right?
Dream tour, if I could tour anywhere in the world, would be a large integrated steel mill. Dream trip would be to start at the iron ore mine, say the Tilden Mine, then ride the train down to the dock and watch loading onto the ships from the dock. Then board the boat and ride down to say AK steel, and then get a tour of the plant. Let me film it and I'll do a documentary called "The Complete Life of an Iron Ore Pellet"
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:51 am
by Raildudes dad
My dad bought a new 1968 Mustang, which I still have
. He took me and maybe my cousin to Dearborn for a factory tour. I don't think we were able to tour the assembly line because I don't remember that but I still remember the tour of the rolling mill. Stood on an elevated area of some sort and watched the red hot slabs go back and forth. You could feel the heat from the slabs. Fairly dark inside except for the red hot light of the slabs.
I was able to take a public tour of the pellet plant at Tilden when Jen was at Tech when you could do that. I was surprised at where they took us.
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:13 pm
by arty flowers
In the not so distant future, a Michigan businessman is looking at the downriver area to place an electric arc seemless, pipe, and tube mill that will be of steel, nickel and titanium. Maybe they'll place it near Zug Island in two to three years once this old mill is demolished and oil is at the right price.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/busin ... aFiIU1CVlM
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:23 pm
by Standard Railfan
Raildudes dad wrote:
I was able to take a public tour of the pellet plant at Tilden when Jen was at Tech when you could do that. I was surprised at where they took us.
I was able to take the Tilden tour as well. When we got to the control room a major electrical component and the whole plant went down. The young lady leading the tour had no idea what to do and kept on with usual agenda. I suggested that maybe we should head out of the plant to get out of the way. Only then did she realize the nature of what happened.
Re: Zug Island Works closing.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:08 pm
by Henry F. Burger
The wise thing she did, when the power goes out, you lose control over many un-friendly things.