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Unread postby dispatcher38 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:08 am

A lot of talk about Lake State getting back into hauling coal trains again. Is that just rumor going around the camp fire or an actual done deal
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby SD80MAC » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:45 am

Done deal. LSRC and CSX will have the Essexville coal through the end of the life of the plant, another 2 or 3 years IIRC. Supposed to switch over from CN/HESR very soon.
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby dispatcher38 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:58 pm

Awesome
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby AARR » Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:07 pm

Any word about coal to St. Clair?
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby barnstormer » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:50 pm

SD80MAC wrote:Done deal. LSRC and CSX will have the Essexville coal through the end of the life of the plant, another 2 or 3 years IIRC. Supposed to switch over from CN/HESR very soon.


Do you, or your sources, know if these trains will go thru G.R., via the West Olive crews, again?
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby Doktor No » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:38 pm

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SD80MAC wrote:Done deal. LSRC and CSX will have the Essexville coal through the end of the life of the plant, another 2 or 3 years IIRC. Supposed to switch over from CN/HESR very soon.


Do you, or your sources, know if these trains will go thru G.R., via the West Olive crews, again?

Union meeting a week from Monday should have answers and you will be there. So should I. Anddddd what warm bodies will be available for them should they come this way?
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby SD80MAC » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:39 pm

I wouldn’t hold my breath, who would run them?
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby Saturnalia » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:42 pm

SD80MAC wrote:I wouldn’t hold my breath, who would run them?

You of course, when they offer the big bucks to come back!
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby kd_1014 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:48 am

Boy am I excited about this! :D
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby Doktor No » Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:32 am

Would not be at all surprised if they run them thru Garrett. People furloughed down there they could call back relatively quickly to run them and no hill at Saugatuck either.
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby 9xs » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:41 pm

One went through Deshler just now going on NW wye
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby ~Z~ » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:31 pm

9xs wrote:One went through Deshler just now going on NW wye

Ran through Deshler OH at 8:45pm as N80107, terminating at Wixom MI. N801 is still supposed to be used for West Olive loads, so I wouldn't count on future LSRC coal loads using that symbol.
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby kd_1014 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:54 am

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9xs wrote:One went through Deshler just now going on NW wye

Ran through Deshler OH at 8:45pm as N80107, terminating at Wixom MI. N801 is still supposed to be used for West Olive loads, so I wouldn't count on future LSRC coal loads using that symbol.


So does that mean the coal trains will take the Ohio route instead of the GR and Plymouth subs?
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby SD80MAC » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:24 am

As of now, yes.
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby BL2-1843 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:06 am

[quote= "SD80MAC"]As of now, yes.[/quote]
So does that mean the coal trains will take the Ohio route instead of the GR and Plymouth subs?

That is great news. I despised these trains running via GRP/Plymouth on the few times they did because I just can NOT read those BNSF numbers at night, which most of them did.
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby Standard Railfan » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:02 pm

Doktor No wrote:Would not be at all surprised if they run them thru Garrett. People furloughed down there they could call back relatively quickly to run them and no hill at Saugatuck either.

Not to mention a very tired and fragile swing bridge.
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby Doktor No » Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:54 pm

Which one would that be? The other coal trains seem to be just fine with it if you mean St. Joe.
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby Standard Railfan » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:17 pm

Doktor No wrote:Which one would that be? The other coal trains seem to be just fine with it if you mean St. Joe.


I do mean St. Joe. I am not suggesting that the bridge can’t handle to loads, clearly it can.

It seems to me that a 100 year old swing bridge will be due for some very expensive maintenance in the near future. There is also the chance for damage to the bridge. In either case I believe the railroad would be reluctant to spend the needed money.
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby J T » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:35 pm

BL2-1843 wrote:
That is great news. I despised these trains running via GRP/Plymouth on the few times they did because I just can NOT read those BNSF numbers at night, which most of them did.

So you despise the presence of a train because you can't read the locomotive numbers at night? What the...
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Re: Lake State Coal

Unread postby J T » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:38 pm

Standard Railfan wrote:
Doktor No wrote:Which one would that be? The other coal trains seem to be just fine with it if you mean St. Joe.


I do mean St. Joe. I am not suggesting that the bridge can’t handle to loads, clearly it can.

It seems to me that a 100 year old swing bridge will be due for some very expensive maintenance in the near future. There is also the chance for damage to the bridge. In either case I believe the railroad would be reluctant to spend the needed money.

Well, there's a 113-year-old swing bridge in New Richmond that is still holding up quite well. :)
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