New Bridge Over Manistee River

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Re: New Bridge Over Manistee River

Unread postby Super Chief » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:52 pm

Anybody know if this got approved by the govenor? Does she control MDOTs budget totally?
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Re: New Bridge Over Manistee River

Unread postby Raildudes dad » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:18 pm

The Governor does not control the MDOT budget. The governor appoints the State Transportation Commission - staggered multi year terms. The gas and weight tax is collected and distributed by statute. The governor can approve or veto legislative appropriations out side of the gas & weight taxes. Federal funds come to MDOT to be distributed via federal rules / regulations. Without looking, I assume it's still in their budget.
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Re: New Bridge Over Manistee River

Unread postby Super Chief » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:25 am

There was a piece on M-live that she slashed a $6 million railroad grade project and $34 million freight dollars and re directed it to passenger rail. They're still negotiating this budget so will see.
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Re: New Bridge Over Manistee River

Unread postby AANscaleRunner » Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:36 pm

There was a crew at the bridge taking core samples while I was chasing the GLC this morning.
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Re: New Bridge Over Manistee River

Unread postby Super Chief » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:42 pm

They did get the funding as the RFQ was issued December 10th. Completion expected 2022. Contractor to supply flagman during construction and can't totally close line in excess of 7 consecutive days to provide service to customers.
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Re: New Bridge Over Manistee River

Unread postby MQT1223 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:12 am

Super Chief wrote:They did get the funding as the RFQ was issued December 10th. Completion expected 2022. Contractor to supply flagman during construction and can't totally close line in excess of 7 consecutive days to provide service to customers.


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Re: New Bridge Over Manistee River

Unread postby GP-35 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:15 am

What is RFQ, and is there a start date? could you please put up a link or MDOT web page, I cant seam to find it. Thank you
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Re: New Bridge Over Manistee River

Unread postby Raildudes dad » Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:28 am

Read to your hearts content. Looks like a modified design build.
https://www.michigan.gov/documents/mdot ... 3463_7.pdf
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Re: New Bridge Over Manistee River

Unread postby DaveO » Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:11 pm

Raildudes dad wrote:Read to your hearts content. Looks like a modified design build.
https://www.michigan.gov/documents/mdot ... 3463_7.pdf

Seeing the word innovation in a MDOT document concerns me.
When MDOT uses innovation while building roads and bridges, it seems like they need to be replaced far sooner compared to the ones built without innovation.
On the other hand, this is a rail project and the GLC will be the person looking over their shoulders.
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Re: New Bridge Over Manistee River

Unread postby Raildudes dad » Tue Dec 31, 2019 1:57 pm

This is modified design build. An Engineer, Bergman, has been chosen to begin the preliminary design plans. This RFQ is to chose a contractor or a joint venture to join the team to come up with the best design including construct-ability. This a remote site without good access. The contractor is to estimate the cost using standard MDOT pay items. MDOT is allowed to negotiate with the contractor for a build cost. If MDOT and the contractor can't agree on a price to build, MDOT can bid it the conventional way. The contractor chosen for this RFQ can bid it then as well.
This should give MDOT a good design for construction as well as long term maintenance.
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Re: New Bridge Over Manistee River

Unread postby Super Chief » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:33 am

Any updates or activity around the bridge lately. MDOT highway contractors are out and about with the warm weather spell. Wondered if anybody snowmobiling or 4 wheeling had seen anything?
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Re: New Bridge Over Manistee River

Unread postby DaveO » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:30 pm

I think this will likely get delayed.
Covid-19 seems destined to impact state revenues and expenditures.
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Re: New Bridge Over Manistee River

Unread postby KingsleyRailFan » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:05 pm

I was out there in the beginning of January hiking on the trail near it and nothing had changed. There were some survey stakes up but they looked like they'd been there for a while.
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Re: New Bridge Over Manistee River

Unread postby MQT1223 » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:32 pm

KingsleyRailFan wrote:I was out there in the beginning of January hiking on the trail near it and nothing had changed. There were some survey stakes up but they looked like they'd been there for a while.


As mentioned, its probably delayed due to Covid-19.
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