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Amtrak Storm Cancellations

Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:54 am
by Super Chief
WWMT 3 just announced Amtraks 350 & 355 are cancelled due to todays snowstorms and bitter cold. Must not want to hit a crossing snow pile at 110 mph and hope for the best, they've had 3 accidents involving Michigan trains this month.

Re: Amtrak Storm Cancellations

Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:24 am
by GP30M4216
There are also multi-day limited cancellations from Chicago to St. Louis, Milwaukee, and Carbondale. Most likely they are trying to protect equipment from deep freezing away from terminals where things can't be warmed back up. Horizon cars with their exposed undercarriage piping are notorious for freezing solid.

In Michigan, just 350/355 are affected. Blue Water and Pere Marquette are expected to operate as normal.

Re: Amtrak Storm Cancellations

Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:26 am
by PatAzo
Better to deal with delayed passengers sitting at a station than dealing with delayed passengers sitting on a train stuck along the country side.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:09 pm
by Saturnalia
Trying to keep CUS fluid. Less equipment running is less stuff to break, so the folks at CUS can keep up and have enough equipment.

At least the deep freeze is temporary. It'll be 40+ in Chicago by the weekend and everything will thaw.

Re: Amtrak Storm Cancellations

Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:04 pm
by Ypsi
According to snow drifts I observed before and after 2 pm 350 ran. 350 and 355 both have statues tonight.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:33 pm
by 9xs
ITCS apparently turned off so the limit is now 79

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Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:15 am
by NSSD70ACe
9xs wrote:ITCS apparently turned off so the limit is now 79


Could also be speed restrictions. Saw a post from Metra indicating that speed restrictions would be in place when the temperature hits zero. Not sure if that factors in windchill or not.

Re: Amtrak Storm Cancellations

Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:23 am
by DaveO
NSSD70ACe wrote:
9xs wrote:ITCS apparently turned off so the limit is now 79


Could also be speed restrictions. Saw a post from Metra indicating that speed restrictions would be in place when the temperature hits zero. Not sure if that factors in windchill or not.

Wind chill has no meaning with regards to inanimate objects.
Welded rail can pull apart in extreme cold which is likely the reason for temporary speed restrictions.

Re: Amtrak Storm Cancellations

Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:56 am
by Super Chief
Well with Horizon cars known to freeze up, wind chill underneath the cars at 110mph must be a female dog to thaw out at end terminals. I thought the speed restrictions would come out in force with -40 degrees air wind chill and 35 mph westerly winds coming into play.

Re: Amtrak Storm Cancellations

Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:17 pm
by PatAzo
Last time I rode to Chicago in the winter they had one working door when they pulled into Union Station. The rest were frozen. The conductor was dumping rock salt on them thinking that would help.

Re: Amtrak Storm Cancellations

Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:55 pm
by Manistique
On Monday I saw 350 coming into Pontiac. It had two Genesis units leading back to back. I did see 355 leave Pontiac yesterday with the two units leading

Today the Amtrak Train Status site says 350 is cancelled. So 355 must also be as there will be no train set in Pontiac for it. We will see. No 350 so far and it was due into Pontiac by now.

Re: Amtrak Storm Cancellations

Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:30 pm
by NSSD70ACe
Manistique wrote:On Monday I saw 350 coming into Pontiac. It had two Genesis units leading back to back. I did see 355 leave Pontiac yesterday with the two units leading

Today the Amtrak Train Status site says 350 is cancelled. So 355 must also be as there will be no train set in Pontiac for it. We will see. No 350 so far and it was due into Pontiac by now.


350/355 turn is canceled through the 31st.

Re: Amtrak Storm Cancellations

Unread postPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:15 am
by Ypsi
Official Amtrak release on the trains cancellations

https://m.amtrak.com/h5/r/www.amtrak.co ... eled1.html

Today this Michigan line will see only B25 and other locals.. this is possibly the first time in the modern era no passenger service has happened in a day.. possibly in decades (or in theory a century) on this line. I will have to do some research.

Re: Amtrak Storm Cancellations

Unread postPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:35 pm
by coasterrider
yeaaah I get a day off LOL