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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Saturnalia » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:58 am

CSX will vacate tomorrow (the 30th) and LSRC will start ops on the 31st.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby atrainguy60 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:39 pm

https://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2 ... r-csx-line

In addition to the info that SD80MAC and Saturnalia already posted, the article says that LSRC is going to return some locations that CSX has been using for storage back to being active tracks. This includes McGrew Yard which has had more than 75% of it's tracks either empty or used for storage. McGrew will ultimately become the "focal point" of LSRC operations, with multiple yard jobs and road freights originating and terminating there.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby BamaSubdivision94 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:28 am

atrainguy60 wrote:https://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2019/03/29-lake-state-railway-set-to-take-over-csx-line

In addition to the info that SD80MAC and Saturnalia already posted, the article says that LSRC is going to return some locations that CSX has been using for storage back to being active tracks. This includes McGrew Yard which has had more than 75% of it's tracks either empty or used for storage. McGrew will ultimately become the "focal point" of LSRC operations, with multiple yard jobs and road freights originating and terminating there.
What does that mean for Saginaw? Are they gonna axe the road trains that originate/terminate there or supplant them with additional ones to/from Flint?
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Robertrains » Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:16 am

Saturnalia wrote:CSX will vacate tomorrow (the 30th) and LSRC will start ops on the 31st.

OK, I will "Railfan" in Holly today (3-30) with my good friend "Mazon!!!!" I guess we'll catch the "Last" of CSX on this line!!!! Now, will any trains bring in power for
LSRC today? Also, I know LSRC purchased the old "Chessie" cabooses that were used on locals out of Plymouth! I heard one will be painted into LSRC colors and used as an office in Wixom and the others will be used as "Shoving Platforms!!!!" :mrgreen: That's awesome! :D Let's see what happens!!!! Last Saturday, 3-23, I photographed northbound D735 crossing the C&O painted bridge over 6 Mile near Northville!!!!

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atrainguy60 wrote:https://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2019/03/29-lake-state-railway-set-to-take-over-csx-line

In addition to the info that SD80MAC and Saturnalia already posted, the article says that LSRC is going to return some locations that CSX has been using for storage back to being active tracks. This includes McGrew Yard which has had more than 75% of it's tracks either empty or used for storage. McGrew will ultimately become the "focal point" of LSRC operations, with multiple yard jobs and road freights originating and terminating there.
What does that mean for Saginaw? Are they gonna axe the road trains that originate/terminate there or supplant them with additional ones to/from Flint?

I guess time will tell!!!! This is pretty exciting for Michigan and our shortlines!!!! :!: Let's hope
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby dave989 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:29 pm

It would be nice to have some of that positive karma on the west side of the state!
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby MQT1223 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:48 pm

Do we have any idea as to when LSRC will run the first train on Sunday and what the symbols for said trains will be? Will there be a local along with a road freight or will a single train that serves industries as it goes up and down the line be the way to go?
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby atrainguy60 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:25 pm

A 25 minute interview with the LSRC president. I found it interesting when he mentions "very significant" future growth coming soon. I believe it's at the 22:20 mark.

https://www.wsgw.com/focus-lake-state-railway/
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Robertrains » Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:14 am

Robertrains wrote:
Saturnalia wrote:CSX will vacate tomorrow (the 30th) and LSRC will start ops on the 31st.

OK, I will "Railfan" in Holly today (3-30) with my good friend "Mazon!!!!" I guess we'll catch the "Last" of CSX on this line!!!! Now, will any trains bring in power for LSRC today? Also, I know LSRC purchased the old "Chessie" cabooses that were used on locals out of Plymouth! I heard one will be painted into LSRC colors and used as an office in Wixom and the others will be used as "Shoving Platforms!!!!" :mrgreen: That's awesome! :D Let's see what happens!!!! Last Saturday, 3-23, I photographed northbound D735 crossing the C&O painted bridge over 6 Mile near Northville!!!!

Well I was in Holly yesterday (3-30) and LSRC or CSX didn't run any trains; the last CSX trains were Friday, 3-29!!!! We only caught one good northbound CN train with an ex CSX leader, CN (IC) C44-9W and two CEFX SD60 locos in SOO paint!!!! :mrgreen:

MQT1223 wrote:Do we have any idea as to when LSRC will run the first train on Sunday and what the symbols for said trains will be? Will there be a local along with a road freight or will a single train that serves industries as it goes up and down the line be the way to go?

I heard they will go to Plymouth early this morning to take the first train north!!!!
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby MQT1223 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:29 am

Apparently Lake State is indeed running trains on their new trackage today. Confirmed Southbound through Holly around 10:40.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby AARR » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:32 am

Thanks for posting atrainguy. I appreciate he uses words that us non-railroading people can understand :) .
atrainguy60 wrote:A 25 minute interview with the LSRC president. I found it interesting when he mentions "very significant" future growth coming soon. I believe it's at the 22:20 mark.

https://www.wsgw.com/focus-lake-state-railway/
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Fred » Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:41 pm

Northbound thru Milford at 210pm
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby 1TrackMind » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:50 pm

Is the LSRC still going to use the signal system between Flint and Plymouth?
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby DaveO » Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:50 pm

1TrackMind wrote:Is the LSRC still going to use the signal system between Flint and Plymouth?

Yes. They can't discontinue the use of the signal system without applying to the FRA and receiving permission to do so.
They applied to discontinue the signals between Flint and Saginaw. That wasn't approved so you can get an idea that the Flint to Plymouth signals likely will stay in use.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Robertrains » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:14 pm

MQT1223 wrote:
Fred wrote:Northbound thru Milford at 210pm
Apparently Lake State is indeed running trains on their new trackage today. Confirmed Southbound through Holly around 10:40.

MQT1223, we waited hours for the "First" LSRC train at the 12 Mile road crossing, Novi!!!!! It wasn't the very early morning like I was told! There was still ice on the tracks when we got there mid morning! I later heard the train coming on my scanner and saw the light before noon (red signals entire time)!!!! I should have went straight to Wixom or waited there in the first place!!!! The train was backing up and we were late to get to it! I still got some pix when it backed in the yard though! They backed in a "Bay Window" caboose in LSRC colors (former Chessie)! The power was a SD40-2 #63XX and GP40-2! I hope they will use this nice caboose here!!!! Well that's all I got on the "First Day!!!!" :?

Fred, what train went north through Milford, 3-31? Was it a grain train? What kind of power pulled? Was it "Run Through" CSX engines?
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Robertrains » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:08 am

Robertrains wrote:
MQT1223 wrote:
Fred wrote:Northbound thru Milford at 210pm
Apparently Lake State is indeed running trains on their new trackage today. Confirmed Southbound through Holly around 10:40.

MQT1223, we waited hours for the "First" LSRC train at the 12 Mile road crossing, Novi!!!!! It wasn't the very early morning like I was told! There was still ice on the tracks when we got there mid morning! I later heard the train coming on my scanner and saw the light before noon (red signals entire time)!!!! I should have went straight to Wixom or waited there in the first place!!!! The train was backing up and we were late to get to it! I still got some pix when it backed in the yard though! They backed in a "Bay Window" caboose in LSRC colors (former Chessie)! The power was a SD40-2 #63XX and GP40-2! I hope they will use this nice caboose here!!!! Well that's all I got on the "First Day!!!!" :?

Fred, what train went north through Milford, 3-31? Was it a grain train? What kind of power pulled? Was it "Run Through" CSX engines?

That "First" LSRC train's power was led by "Support Our Troops" SD40-2 #6302 and GP40-2 #1166!!!! Did anyone else here "Capture" that train or any others on Sunday 3-31? What other "Power" was used on any other trains that day? Does anyone know their schedule for this line? :?: This is very exciting having LSRC much closer to home!!!! :wink:
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby blueheron13 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:49 am

Fred, what train went north through Milford, 3-31? Was it a grain train? What kind of power pulled? Was it "Run Through" CSX engines?[/color][/quote]
That "First" LSRC train's power was led by "Support Our Troops" SD40-2 #6302 and GP40-2 #1166!!!! Did anyone else here "Capture" that train or any others on Sunday 3-31? What other "Power" was used on any other trains that day? Does anyone know their schedule for this line? :?: This is very exciting having LSRC much closer to home!!!! :wink:[/quote]

- A good picture of the first LSRC train (the SB train you mentioned with two engines and caboose) was taken by Facebook user "United Railfan Photos".
- I personally saw the first NB train in Flint on Sunday afternoon, which was simply a grain train with CSX 3351 for power.
- The engines that came south on Saturday took a D735-style train north on Monday afternoon. There are many pictures of this train out there. Apparently the first engine ran long hood forward, and the two engines were nose-to-nose.
- I don't know if any other trains have gone north or south.

It's seems too early to get a feel for a regular schedule yet.
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Ben Higdon » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:33 pm

The auto parts boxcars that had been stored in Wixom Yd for months (years?) are gone. Just 2 bay covered hoppers now
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Robertrains » Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:08 pm

Robertrains wrote:Fred, what train went north through Milford, 3-31? Was it a grain train? What kind of power pulled? Was it "Run Through" CSX engines?

That "First" LSRC train's power was led by "Support Our Troops" SD40-2 #6302 and GP40-2 #1166!!!! Did anyone else here "Capture" that train or any others on Sunday 3-31? What other "Power" was used on any other trains that day? Does anyone know their schedule for this line? :?: This is very exciting having LSRC much closer to home!!!! :wink:
blueheron13 wrote:- A good picture of the first LSRC train (the SB train you mentioned with two engines and caboose) was taken by Facebook user "United Railfan Photos".
- I personally saw the first NB train in Flint on Sunday afternoon, which was simply a grain train with CSX 3351 for power.
- The engines that came south on Saturday took a D735-style train north on Monday afternoon. There are many pictures of this train out there. Apparently the first engine ran long hood forward, and the two engines were nose-to-nose.
- I don't know if any other trains have gone north or south.

It's seems too early to get a feel for a regular schedule yet.

OK, blueheron13, can you share a "Link" of the "Long Hood Forward" train? You mean the engines that came on Sunday, 3-31, correct (not 'Saturday')? Were those the LSRC engines taking the D735-style train north on Monday afternoon? Why did they go "Long Hood Forward?" That is alright though!!!! :mrgreen: Now, does anyone know if the caboose will be used? I heard it will be an office! Does anyone else here know anything more? :?:
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby blueheron13 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:05 pm

Oops, yes I did mean Sunday. As for the Monday NB train, if you have Facebook, here is a post with a video: https://www.facebook.com/james.b.986/vi ... 967295492/
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Re: Lake State to Lease CSX Line from Plymouth to Mt. Morris

Unread postby Robertrains » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:49 am

blueheron13 wrote:Oops, yes I did mean Sunday. As for the Monday NB train, if you have Facebook, here is a post with a video: https://www.facebook.com/james.b.986/vi ... 967295492/

Thanx blueheron13! It's a good video!!!! I am thinking about the "First" southbound in Wixom! As I mentioned above, I was waiting in Novi and saw the light, then they backed into the yard! I was upset they didn't come south past me since waiting a few hours!!!! We barely got to Wixom in time to see anything!!!! :evil: I heard that old "Chessie Caboose" will be an office! They bought all the cabooses that were used in Plymouth from CSX and the rest will be used as "Shoving Platforms!!!!" Well at least I got something on the "First Day!!!!" LSRC is a lot closer to me now since I live in Roseville!!!! :shock: :D :D :wink:
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