Passenger cars that GTW hauled to Durand

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Passenger cars that GTW hauled to Durand

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Anyone know the car numbers/names?
I'm guessing the flat end/mid-train observation Pennsylvania car is the Louis Sockalexis.
How about the (apparently) Northern Pacific dome?

Are these to become part of the Lake States fleet?
Or perhaps storage in the Saginaw roundhouse?

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If you only caught them in Durand they could be going to SRI? Did you catch them on any trains going in either direction? SRI supposedly got one of the circus train cars also, but can't confirm that its arrived on property.

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Super Chief wrote:If you only caught them in Durand they could be going to SRI? Did you catch them on any trains going in either direction? SRI supposedly got one of the circus train cars also, but can't confirm that its arrived on property.
I was going on the info based on the photo by GTWtracker @ Fenton in the train location subforum.
But you are right, they could have headed up to SRI. But neither are from the circus train.

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Bound for Saginaw....

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Anybody have the identity of the NP dome? Lake State is going to have a neat Santa train this year if these run on it.

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Here's my post from the CN Updates: June 2018 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:20 pm (I wish I would have seen this train):
Robertrains wrote:6-29-2018
NS3322 wrote:» Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:39 pm
Wow, nothing here on the CN train with the Northern Pacific Dome and Pennsylvania coach? It was led by
GTW 5847!
:!: HEY!!!! :!: Please explain about this train! It has a "Classic" GTW engine and two private cars! :?: WAHAT? :?: Where's it going? Why is it? Will it come back tomorrow? :?:
Per Fbook "GTW Tracker," these are heading to Saginaw for LSRC! This would have been awesome to catch! Nice "Blue" GTW with those "White" Plates!!!!" Here it is in Fenton:
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(photo © John Anthony.)
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Cars are the Stampede Pass and the former 1949 Pennsylvania Railroad 8423 observation car “Frank Thomson”
From facebook:

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Thank you to CN for providing great service to switch Frank Thomson to its summer home at Lake State Railway yesterday!

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Too bad that when the shop removed the class lights, they did not see fit to touch up the paint. The "white plates" referred to earlier look out of place and detract from the loco's appearance.

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CR900945 wrote:Too bad that when the shop removed the class lights, they did not see fit to touch up the paint. The "white plates" referred to earlier look out of place and detract from the loco's appearance.
A search of online photos reveals that 5847 kept its class lights at least until 1991. By 1998 they were gone. Initially this took the form of the "rings," or gasket or whatever it's called, remaining and whatever material replaced the bulb was painted red. By 2003 the plates were installed, and initially nicely painted red. By 2005 the red paint was already flaking off.

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Steve B wrote:
CR900945 wrote:» Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:27 pm
Too bad that when the shop removed the class lights, they did not see fit to touch up the paint. The "white plates" referred to earlier look out of place and detract from the loco's appearance.

A search of online photos reveals that 5847 kept its class lights at least until 1991. By 1998 they were gone. Initially this took the form of the "rings," or gasket or whatever it's called, remaining and whatever material replaced the bulb was painted red. By 2003 the plates were installed, and initially nicely painted red. By 2005 the red paint was already flaking off.

OK guys! I saw this engine in 1992 with "Classification Lights!!!!" In 2001 I saw it in a consist already with "White Plates!" The white was later painted over red! Then by 2008 the newer red paint was "Flaking" off!!!! I saw the engine in Illinois in 2010 and it was back to "White Plates!!!!" Later there were "Angry Eyes" (which I didn't see in person)! They finally returned all "White" again!!!! I love it because it is very "Different" looking!!!! :wink: :wink: Look at the "Sequence" of photos below of its life on "The Good Track Road!™"


Original "Black" Former P&LE GTW GP38-2 #5847, 7-4-1986, Pontiac, MI (©Larry Burk): Image
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2389281

"Blue" 5847 with "Painted Over" Class Lights, 3-27-1990, Dolton, IL (©Donald Albertson): Image
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1236638

5847 at Blue Island, IL again with regular "Class Lights," 6-8-1991 (©Bruce Gage): Image
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=4149270

5847 at Durand, MI, 2-14-1998, with "Gasket Type" plates (©Paul Leach): Image
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1403412

5847 at Forest View, IL (already had "White Plates" before this), 11-29-2003 (©Chad Malivovsky): Image
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... x?id=18308

5847 had the red "Painted" over plates "Flaking" to return "White," 2-23-2008, Decatur, IL (©Tracy Bone): Image
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1061162

Now 5847 had "Angry Eyes," 9-16-2012, Decatur, IL (©Matthew Schimmel): Image
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=3199952

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: INTERESTING!!!!! :mrgreen:
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OK, folks! Here we are back to referring GTW 5847 and those "White Plates!!!!" Read back on this thread for more info on GTW 5847! OK, this engine has been running lately on a local from Battle Creek and west (Nov./Dec. 2023)! I did not catch it recently! However, those nice "White Plates" were once again painted over red again!!!! :evil: :evil: :cry: :cry: :cry: I did not want them painted over! Here's a picture in Iron Junction, MI, June 16, 2021 (photo Jeffery Streiff):
Image
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5597781


OK, here is a scan of the time I captured GTW 5847! GTW 5847 heads south from the Dunn Paper® facility in Port Huron, MI, April 8, 2018. It is seen crossing the Bascule Bridge over the Black River. This spur has since been leased to Lake State Railway® and both paper companies (Dunn/Domtar) have closed! Not much business on this spur now (Canon® 35mm S.L.R., E-6 slide film):
(I can only give the picture link; the image thingie is not working) http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5995663
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