Ann Arbor station stop signs
Ann Arbor station stop signs
I just learned that Ann Arbor has signs to assign the engine crews in properly spotting the trains on the station platform. Were they recently erected? Prior to this I had never heard of station stop signs outside of the Northeast Corridor former Pennsy lines.
Are there plans for a new station at AA that will have a high level platform?
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Are there plans for a new station at AA that will have a high level platform?
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Re: Ann Arbor station stop signs
Until someone comes by with the definitive answer, I believe the signs are to help spot the car(s) in line with the platform built for those with mobility impairments.twropr wrote:I just learned that Ann Arbor has signs to assign the engine crews in properly spotting the trains on the station platform. Were they recently erected? Prior to this I had never heard of station stop signs outside of the Northeast Corridor former Pennsy lines.
Are there plans for a new station at AA that will have a high level platform?
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Are there plans for a new AA station?
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Will it have high level platforms? Probably not. They impede some freight and track maintenance. Take a look to the new Dearborn station for what platforms would likely be like.
Re: Ann Arbor station stop signs
Is there any freight traffic on the Michigan Central line through Ann Arbor? I have not seen a freight train on that
line for almost a decade. High level platforms at a new depot in Ann Arbor should not be a problem if there are
no frieght trains.
line for almost a decade. High level platforms at a new depot in Ann Arbor should not be a problem if there are
no frieght trains.
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There hasn't been a revenue freight train on the Michigan Line through Ann Arbor for a few years, when 38E and 39E were cut back to Wayne, MI.renf wrote:Is there any freight traffic on the Michigan Central line through Ann Arbor? I have not seen a freight train on that
line for almost a decade. High level platforms at a new depot in Ann Arbor should not be a problem if there are
no frieght trains.
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Re: Ann Arbor station stop signs
The station would receive either 10" platforms like Dearborn and possibly (a) retractable platform(s) similar to the existing one at the current station. The State of Michigan made an agreement with NS when the line was sold to ensure clearances for freight traffic in the event that NS ever needs to utilize the line.
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Where does freight traffic from Jackson and Battle Creek go? Via Kalamazoo to Elkhart?MiRailProductions wrote:There hasn't been a revenue freight train on the Michigan Line through Ann Arbor for a few years, when 38E and 39E were cut back to Wayne, MI.
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Yes, NS runs a job from Jackson to Kzoo and a job from Battle Creek to Kzoo. That traffic and motive power for BC and Jackson are ferried to Elkhart via the Grand Elk.NS3322 wrote:Where does freight traffic from Jackson and Battle Creek go? Via Kalamazoo to Elkhart?MiRailProductions wrote:There hasn't been a revenue freight train on the Michigan Line through Ann Arbor for a few years, when 38E and 39E were cut back to Wayne, MI.
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Re: Ann Arbor station stop signs
There must be a NS local freight that switches the Jiffy Mix muffin plant in Chelsea. What happened to the that NS local between Jackson and Wayne?SD80MAC wrote:Yes, NS runs a job from Jackson to Kzoo and a job from Battle Creek to Kzoo. That traffic and motive power for BC and Jackson are ferried to Elkhart via the Grand Elk.NS3322 wrote:Where does freight traffic from Jackson and Battle Creek go? Via Kalamazoo to Elkhart?MiRailProductions wrote:There hasn't been a revenue freight train on the Michigan Line through Ann Arbor for a few years, when 38E and 39E were cut back to Wayne, MI.
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Isn't there another grain elevator east of Chelsea off of Dexter-Chelsea Road? I believe it is called Chelsea Grain.railrod1949 wrote:There must be a NS local freight that switches the Jiffy Mix muffin plant in Chelsea. What happened to the that NS local between Jackson and Wayne?
And are Contractors Steel and Worthington Specialty Processing (both between Wayne and Willow Run Yard) still shipping by rail?
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Last time I checked (it's been three years) all three were still shipping by rail
NS3322 wrote:Isn't there another grain elevator east of Chelsea off of Dexter-Chelsea Road? I believe it is called Chelsea Grain.
And are Contractors Steel and Worthington Specialty Processing (both between Wayne and Willow Run Yard) still shipping by rail?
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Re: Ann Arbor station stop signs
Yes, can't remember the symbol but I think it's in the B30's range. Saturnalia might be the guy to know the answer. The trains between Jackson and Wayne were not locals; they were road trains 38E and 39E that terminated/originated in Jackson, then cut back to Wayne in early 2015. All traffic got rerouted via Jackson-Kzoo and Kzoo-Elkhart in favor of smoother passenger operations, I think.railrod1949 wrote:There must be a NS local freight that switches the Jiffy Mix muffin plant in Chelsea. What happened to the that NS local between Jackson and Wayne?SD80MAC wrote:Yes, NS runs a job from Jackson to Kzoo and a job from Battle Creek to Kzoo. That traffic and motive power for BC and Jackson are ferried to Elkhart via the Grand Elk.NS3322 wrote: Where does freight traffic from Jackson and Battle Creek go? Via Kalamazoo to Elkhart?
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Re: Ann Arbor station stop signs
Nearly every time I go by Chelsea Grain, there are at least a few hoppers there, so I assume a local comes every once in a while to pick those up. Additionally, those guys at Willow Run still get served by a local every once in a while. I can't remember the symbols of either local.NS3322 wrote:Isn't there another grain elevator east of Chelsea off of Dexter-Chelsea Road? I believe it is called Chelsea Grain.railrod1949 wrote:There must be a NS local freight that switches the Jiffy Mix muffin plant in Chelsea. What happened to the that NS local between Jackson and Wayne?
And are Contractors Steel and Worthington Specialty Processing (both between Wayne and Willow Run Yard) still shipping by rail?
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Re: Ann Arbor station stop signs
B17 handles willow run. My new job has a shop right along the tracks between Worthington and Willow Run.
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B17 works Wayne to contractors/ Denton road. B44 does Jackson to Chelsea as needed. B90 is also a local symbol they may use as needed (extra symbol).
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I thought you might've known. Thanks!Ypsi wrote:B17 works Wayne to contractors/ Denton road. B44 does Jackson to Chelsea as needed. B90 is also a local symbol they may use as needed (extra symbol).
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