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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby 1TrackMind » Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:32 pm

Super Chief wrote:4009 has been repaired and is running again. Have stone trains began yet?

No NS in Wabash isn't ready yet, still signal work to be done. Switches have been installed in Gearhart and Wabash.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby NSSD70ACe » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:00 pm

1TrackMind wrote:
Super Chief wrote:4009 has been repaired and is running again. Have stone trains began yet?

No NS in Wabash isn't ready yet, still signal work to be done. Switches have been installed in Gearhart and Wabash.


Not sure if this has been touched on already but is NS gonna run power thru on these trains or is it gonna be GDLK power?
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby GTW » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:14 pm

To answer your question NS power is to run thru along with DPU on the rear.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby PatAzo » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:07 am

Super Chief wrote:4009 has been repaired and is running again.


When did it loose it's turbocharger?
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby Ypsi » Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:50 am

When it got rebuilt this winter it was de-turboed and de rated to 2000 hp. It then hit a semi truck about a month ago and a half ago and needed body work. It is back in service. 4017 took a poop last week, not sure how long repairs will be on it. NS power on the stone trains.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby justalurker66 » Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:24 pm

GTW wrote:To answer your question NS power is to run thru along with DPU on the rear.

Change ends at Elkhart?
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby Ben Higdon » Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:32 am

1TrackMind wrote:
Super Chief wrote:4009 has been repaired and is running again. Have stone trains began yet?

No NS in Wabash isn't ready yet, still signal work to be done. Switches have been installed in Gearhart and Wabash.


What is "Wabash"?
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby chapmaja » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:44 am

Ben Higdon wrote:
1TrackMind wrote:
Super Chief wrote:4009 has been repaired and is running again. Have stone trains began yet?

No NS in Wabash isn't ready yet, still signal work to be done. Switches have been installed in Gearhart and Wabash.


What is "Wabash"?


My guess is Wabash, Indiana. I don't recall where these are coming from, but I wonder if they are coming from Illinois, across on NS to Wabash, then north to Elkhardt to the Grand Elk.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby NS3322 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:47 am

chapmaja wrote:My guess is Wabash, Indiana. I don't recall where these are coming from, but I wonder if they are coming from Illinois, across on NS to Wabash, then north to Elkhardt to the Grand Elk.


There is a big stone yard in Wabash (Rich Valley). I only know this because that is where the Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society is storing NKP 624.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby KC8RBK » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:31 pm

NS3322 wrote:
chapmaja wrote:My guess is Wabash, Indiana. I don't recall where these are coming from, but I wonder if they are coming from Illinois, across on NS to Wabash, then north to Elkhardt to the Grand Elk.


There is a big stone yard in Wabash (Rich Valley). I only know this because that is where the Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society is storing NKP 624.


You can see it on Google maps a little west of town including part of the new sidings being installed.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby justalurker66 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:17 pm

KC8RBK wrote:You can see it on Google maps a little west of town including part of the new sidings being installed.

I assume the construction has moved along much further than shown on the Google Maps website (July 2018).
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby Super Chief » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:39 am

Anybody got where the originating crew and engine base would be for the stone trains from Rich Valley to Kalamazoo? I notice also that a couple of NS lines diverge at Wabash so was wondering if anybody knew the routing to get to Elkhart as there are freights going between the two now? Also a question about the curve in Kalamazoo for 100 car stone trains with DPU power. Do crews have to qualify around that curve from NS? Or does the Elk crews have to qualify for DPU operation? Assuming power will stay on all the way could we have 2 units leading and 1 unit trailing or vice versa? 2 on the head end up the Marion branch will be on the rear coming up on the Elk if nothing is switched.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby NS3322 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:41 pm

Not sure if this still true, but does GDLK train #105 still switch the Upjohn (Pfizer) spur Mon - Fri, starting at 0830?
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby justalurker66 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:44 pm

Super Chief wrote:I notice also that a couple of NS lines diverge at Wabash so was wondering if anybody knew the routing to get to Elkhart as there are freights going between the two now?

Generally trains run between Peru and Elkhart. The trains may continue west of Peru into Illinois. At the north end they can continue west to Whiting. The east-west line at Wabash is the NS Huntington District, north-south is the NS Marion Branch. Both are Lake Division. Peru to Elkhart (and Elkhart to Peru) is a well traveled route.

At the north end the Marion Branch changes to Dearborn Division track (near MP 3 south of Goshen) then joins the NS Chicago Line to reach Elkhart Yard. Elkhart Yard is also the southern end of the GDLK operation (with the GDLK lease beginning at CP 1 about 1.4 miles east of the yard).
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby Super Chief » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:50 pm

Anybody able to confirm that the Elk may paint 2204 into WMU colors? Go Broncos.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby MQT1223 » Wed May 01, 2019 5:50 am

Super Chief wrote:Anybody able to confirm that the Elk may paint 2204 into WMU colors? Go Broncos.


On a side note I've heard the WSOR units are supposed to be painted this year and maybe the SD45 carbody unit.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby NSSD60M » Wed May 01, 2019 6:37 pm

MQT1223 wrote:
Super Chief wrote:Anybody able to confirm that the Elk may paint 2204 into WMU colors? Go Broncos.


On a side note I've heard the WSOR units are supposed to be painted this year and maybe the SD45 carbody unit.


Isn't the 2204 a lease unit? How could they paint that?

The WSOR units look absolutely wretched compared to their sister units across the lake on the WSOR. They must not have been ever cleaned since being on GDLK property.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby Ypsi » Wed May 01, 2019 7:29 pm

NSSD60M wrote:
Isn't the 2204 a lease unit? How could they paint that?

The WSOR units look absolutely wretched compared to their sister units across the lake on the WSOR. They must not have been ever cleaned since being on GDLK property.


You can buy out lease units. NS has bought and painted a ton of lease units over the years.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby NSSD60M » Wed May 01, 2019 7:32 pm

Ypsi wrote:
NSSD60M wrote:
Isn't the 2204 a lease unit? How could they paint that?

The WSOR units look absolutely wretched compared to their sister units across the lake on the WSOR. They must not have been ever cleaned since being on GDLK property.


You can buy out lease units. NS has bought and painted a ton of lease units over the years.


While that's certainly a feasible scenario, has it indeed happened with that unit or any other currently leased units to Watco?
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby justalurker66 » Wed May 01, 2019 9:28 pm

NSSD60M wrote:While that's certainly a feasible scenario, has it indeed happened with that unit or any other currently leased units to Watco?

Are the engines with the Grand Elk logo owned or leased?

On a long term lease, I would not be surprised if painting was allowed in the lease. As long as it did not affect the ability for the engines to be leased to the next customer, what would be the problem?
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