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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby NS3322 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:29 pm

GAP wrote:Do the stone trains run with any kind of predictability? I know there is no such thing as a "schedule" but are there any certain days or times that are more likely? Or is it totally random?


I was told "no set schedule." So pretty much random.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby Ypsi » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:05 am

NS3322 wrote:
GAP wrote:Do the stone trains run with any kind of predictability? I know there is no such thing as a "schedule" but are there any certain days or times that are more likely? Or is it totally random?


I was told "no set schedule." So pretty much random.


Even working there we have no clue, it’s random. The days have changed over the course of weeks, the times we pick it up, which crew picks it up, how long it takes to unload, and then the same questions repeat itself when the train is trying to go back to Elkhart. My stone train got into Elkhart around 2000 tonight, NS power empty. Just depends on the day the crews, how much we have to wait on going down, and the big one how much NS wants to hold us out.

I did talk to a stone pit employee today when I was building the train, he said only about 4 more weeks of stone before they are done for the season.. so my guess is 3-4 trains then nothing till spring.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby Super Chief » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:37 am

I have a question, are they loading the cars with a front end loader in Rich Valley or did they get a conveyer system in place? I know Kalamazoo has an unloading conveyor system but Google Maps never seems to be updated so I never see one at Rich Valley? Also when one train went under the overhead bridge in Three Rivers the cars looked to be half full? Is there a reason for this?
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby Super Chief » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:02 am

I see they do have a conveyor system on the last Maps update, however the rail system into the complex is not completed to show a loading method. An NS employee told me about the front end loader method which would really slow train departures. Maybe thats the case but with only 4 trains to go oh well. Are South Bend stone trains done?
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby Doktor No » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:50 am

They are only loaded half full because they don't want to OVERLOAD the cars. More cubic feet then weight capacity. That's why sand and cement cars are shorties. Remember the runaway on Cajon Pass a few years back? Idiot at the stone plant in the desert saw that the cars were only half full so he filled them to full. They showed the cars at old weight and not the overweight. Power was added to train to dynamically control a train that was VASTLY overloaded. The rest is history.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby Super Chief » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:53 pm

Elk has a WSOR passenger car here for shippers specials this Friday , Saturday and team member special Sunday. There possibly is another car coming from Lake States too. Nice touch to do this for the local communities. Running ahead of 303 Friday morning from Kazoo to Grand Rapids, Saturday running to Bristol on the south end, and Sunday running to Three Rivers and back. You now know.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby cfriedri » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:34 am

Super Chief wrote:Elk has a WSOR passenger car here for shippers specials this Friday , Saturday and team member special Sunday. There possibly is another car coming from Lake States too. Nice touch to do this for the local communities. Running ahead of 303 Friday morning from Kazoo to Grand Rapids, Saturday running to Bristol on the south end, and Sunday running to Three Rivers and back. You now know.

Nice touch despite the fact that getting it from Janesville to the BRC was a 14 hour day for me :lol:
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby NSSD70ACe » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:11 am

What NS operations still travel to/from Gearhart from the east? I caught a couple of NS SD40s leading a rather lengthy train EB from the yard, I think the 29th. Looked too long to be for BC.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby NS3322 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:48 pm

NSSD70ACe wrote:What NS operations still travel to/from Gearhart from the east? I caught a couple of NS SD40s leading a rather lengthy train EB from the yard, I think the 29th. Looked too long to be for BC.


You likely saw the road train to Jackson: B33. The BC local does not use SD40s.

Does 303 still go on duty at 1000?
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby NSSD70ACe » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:04 pm

NS3322 wrote:
NSSD70ACe wrote:What NS operations still travel to/from Gearhart from the east? I caught a couple of NS SD40s leading a rather lengthy train EB from the yard, I think the 29th. Looked too long to be for BC.


You likely saw the road train to Jackson: B33. The BC local does not use SD40s.

Does 303 still go on duty at 1000?


Yeah I thought I heard somewhere that B33 was annulled but I guess not.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby NS3322 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:28 pm

Any idea why #4009 was hauling only one car today at around 11:30? Would this be 105?
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby eastonj » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:59 pm

Anyone have a departure time for Sundays run to Three Rivers?

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Super Chief wrote:Elk has a WSOR passenger car here for shippers specials this Friday , Saturday and team member special Sunday. There possibly is another car coming from Lake States too. Nice touch to do this for the local communities. Running ahead of 303 Friday morning from Kazoo to Grand Rapids, Saturday running to Bristol on the south end, and Sunday running to Three Rivers and back. You now know.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby Super Chief » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:58 pm

Indeed 4009 was the 105 yesterday, followed 501 around the wye by about 10 minutes according to the radio traffic with the Amtrak train director.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby Super Chief » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:05 pm

2 trains to Three Rivers Sunday. 1st train arrives 10am, leaves 10:30, 2nd train arrives at 2:30pm leaves at 3. Run around train at GM siding both times.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby Super Chief » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:10 pm

I'm sorry you asked for departure times, departs Kazoo 9am and 1:30 pm.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby eastonj » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:11 pm

Thanks!

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Super Chief wrote:2 trains to Three Rivers Sunday. 1st train arrives 10am, leaves 10:30, 2nd train arrives at 2:30pm leaves at 3. Run around train at GM siding both times.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby NSSD70ACe » Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:17 pm

Super Chief wrote:2 trains to Three Rivers Sunday. 1st train arrives 10am, leaves 10:30, 2nd train arrives at 2:30pm leaves at 3. Run around train at GM siding both times.


How far into Three Rivers are they going? And where is GM siding? Is that the American Axle plant?
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby Super Chief » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:13 am

Theres been a change, GM siding is full of cars now. So the plan is the run arounds will be at Park and Cowling both times. Being power switches it will take a little longer.
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby OldBastard » Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:03 am

Super Chief wrote:Theres been a change, GM siding is full of cars now. So the plan is the run arounds will be at Park and Cowling both times. Being power switches it will take a little longer.

Might limit the view in both directions from the theater car, but a push-pull arrangement would save a whole lot of effort. Probably a spare GP35 laying around resting on a Sunday...
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Re: GDLK Operations

Unread postby Saturnalia » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:09 am

OldBastard wrote:
Super Chief wrote:Theres been a change, GM siding is full of cars now. So the plan is the run arounds will be at Park and Cowling both times. Being power switches it will take a little longer.

Might limit the view in both directions from the theater car, but a push-pull arrangement would save a whole lot of effort. Probably a spare GP35 laying around resting on a Sunday...

Save ten minutes or use the theater car...hmmm...hard decision!
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