Engine fire at Kent City

[atrainguy60]

Apparently there was an engine fire in Kent City that shut down portions of downtown:
http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/2602 ... -Kent-City

[Raildudes dad]

Rusco Road isn't downtown Kent City but it looks like 3839 is toast It had an electrical fire on the GRE in the late 90s'.

[EWRice]

Is that the GRE loco from Muskegon? If it is that's unfortunate. I know a lot of electrical upgrades were done on it in the past.

[GrandTrunkFan]

Is that the GRE loco from Muskegon? If it is that's unfortunate. I know a lot of electrical upgrades were done on it in the past.

Yup...I think this may be it for her.

[SD80MAC]

Big Red

[GrandTrunkFan]

Didnt they rebuild/replace the prime mover in her recently? IMHO, that might be her saving grace. But Im sure the red and white will go. Charcoal black doesnt go well.

[SD80MAC]

Like Eric said, 3839 was basically completely rewired a few years ago in addition to receiving a new prime mover. The MS guys always used to say it was "basically a brand new engine".

I wonder what the issue was? 3839 worked plenty hard on the MS often enough hauling some large Z627s up Henry St hill and out of Muskegon, among other things. Maybe it was just a freak thing? Either way, I hope it can be repaired.

[GrandTrunkFan]

Like Eric said, 3839 was basically completely rewired a few years ago in addition to receiving a new prime mover. The MS guys always used to say it was "basically a brand new engine".

I wonder what the issue was? 3839 worked plenty hard on the MS often enough hauling some large Z627s up Henry St hill and out of Muskegon, among other things. Maybe it was just a freak thing? Either way, I hope it can be repaired.

Thats what I thought. Didnt know she was rewired, just remember her getting the new prime mover. But I hope shell be back too.

[JStryker722]

Maybe the new wiring got too hot or hot oil leaked and caught fire cuz of the heat of the engine? Those things do happen,particularly on older locomotives. But this engine as stated has been rebuilt recently with new wiring and prime mover so Either way it's a freak accident that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy lol.

Maybe the alternator bit the bullet? That wasn't changed out according to what this forum just said unpess that's considered part of the prime mover

[AveryRdhouse]

Dont get to worked up boys and girls. It wasnt the wiring. It was something else. MQT's crack shop forces will have it back together and running in no time.

[J T]

How recently were the electrical and prime mover worked on? What was going on with this repair when I took this shot in June of 2007?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 5&nseq=310

[SD80MAC]

That picture was during the repairs in question, Jim.

[Saturnalia]

Rusco Road isn't downtown Kent City but it looks like 3839 is toast It had an electrical fire on the GRE in the late 90s'.

I think the GR news crews are used to cities with a larger diameter

I've filmed at Rusco Rd during the last 2 Santa Trains, hope the firefighters were not swallowed by the ditch like I was last year!

What were the circumstances behind the 90s fire?

[JStryker722]

I bet you if there was a " touch this button " sign above the dynamic brake handle,no one would've used it! Lol

[amtrak1007]

Dynamic brakes were disabled but someone enabled them....and they threw sparkage into the airfilters and viola! FIRE!
THE SWITCH IS OFF FOR A REASON LEAVE IT OFF.
Oh wellllllll

BURN BABY BURN!!!

[JStryker722]

Here is my question: why would you use dynamic brakes on a shortline with what I'm guessing is 25mph track max(do correct me if I'm wrong on track speed) as regular brakes would've done just fine?

[tsinoms]

Here is my question: why would you use dynamic brakes on a shortline with what I'm guessing is 25mph track max(do correct me if I'm wrong on track speed) as regular brakes would've done just fine?

Thought it was a touch higher than 25. Also that is some hilly territory we are talking about. There is a nice dip at Grant if ya haven't seen it. Nothing amazing but still a nice dip.

[Saturnalia]

Here is my question: why would you use dynamic brakes on a shortline with what I'm guessing is 25mph track max(do correct me if I'm wrong on track speed) as regular brakes would've done just fine?

Thought it was a touch higher than 25. Also that is some hilly territory we are talking about. There is a nice dip at Grant if ya haven't seen it. Nothing amazing but still a nice dip.

I think it is 40, but I'm not sure. Kent City is slower, however. There are some nice hills, the down and up grades around Newaygo into the Muskegon River Basin comes to mind. There is also a dip down to Half Moon Lake, then back up around the orchards, before dropping again into Kent City, where oh by the way they have to slow down.


Go to the 3-minute mark, and you can see the train drop into one of the dips just north of Grant. Pretty representative of the line.

[AARR]

Here is my question: why would you use dynamic brakes on a shortline with what I'm guessing is 25mph track max(do correct me if I'm wrong on track speed) as regular brakes would've done just fine?

Thought it was a touch higher than 25. Also that is some hilly territory we are talking about. There is a nice dip at Grant if ya haven't seen it. Nothing amazing but still a nice dip.

My understanding is railroads are using dynamics for braking more frequently and in place of the regular brake system because it saves wear and tear on the brake pads and some other parts.

[BerkshireKid]

You can only use so much air brakes before you piss away all your air and BAM NO BRAKES! Our run thru NS power down here has extended range dynamics and you can bring the train down to pretty much a stop with those only using a little air to finally stop the train.