Chief Wawatam Elevator Apron Collapsed in St. Ignace

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The Chief's dock, St. Ignace

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Nearly 30 years after being abandoned, the apron, "A "frame and counterweights of the Chief's dock in St. Ignace collapsed on Wednesday 08-03-11. Too bad; it was quite a landmark and it was the first thing many people saw when they came into St. Ignace. Hate to see that happen after the city invested more than a few bucks into making the dock into a really nice park.
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I am sorry to hear this. I am one of those people that enjoy seeing the old, even if not used, railroad stuff.
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The other dock in Mackinac City wasn't looking in that great of shape when I was there in 2007.

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Does the City of Milwaukee dock in Manistee have an apron? I think it would help tell the story of carferries by having an apron at the site. Too bad the apron at St. Ignace collapsed though....it clearly survived many many winters with no maintenance.

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Wow, I was just up in St Ignace a couple weeks ago, and got some pics of the apron. Im glad I did now!
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I'm Glad I went up there too
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At least the Mackinaw City side may have a chance. On a tour of the USS Mackinaw, they had "plans" for the whole pier. The whole pier would be turned into a museum/park with the icebreaker being the focal point. The carfloat apron will be restored and a railcar will be placed on it. Now if only they could get the Chief there as well....
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GP30M4216 wrote:Does the City of Milwaukee dock in Manistee have an apron? I think it would help tell the story of carferries by having an apron at the site. Too bad the apron at St. Ignace collapsed though....it clearly survived many many winters with no maintenance.
No apron here. Both aprons are still in place at Elberta.
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GrandTrunkFan wrote:At least the Mackinaw City side may have a chance. On a tour of the USS Mackinaw, they had "plans" for the whole pier. The whole pier would be turned into a museum/park with the icebreaker being the focal point. The carfloat apron will be restored and a railcar will be placed on it. Now if only they could get the Chief there as well....
Did the Chief finally get scrapped? It was a barge on the lakes still last I knew.

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The remaining barge version was cut up about November of 2009. What an experience seeing her in operation in the late 70s/early 80s. It was like going back in time.
http://www.stignacenews.com/news/2009-1 ... apped.html
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Interesting that one of the issues driving abandonment 30 years ago was the cost of repairs needed to avoid collapse, and it managed to survived this long after that.

Saw the front page of the St. Ignace paper while here on Mackinac Island, and of course, it was the headline with pictures. While everyone is sad about it, there is apparently no money in that cash-strapped city's budget to do anything about it.
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I have a wonderful memory of the Chief. I was returning to St. Ignace on one of the Arnold Line ferries and the Chief just happened to be in our vacinity, returning from Mackinaw city. We were less than 50 ft from her. Sadly, I'd run out of film :x but in my mind, I will never ever forget seeing her in action up close and then being engulfed in her black smoke. I think it was in the late 70's while I was still in college. We who saw her were very lucky..... :shock: :D

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TraintrackGal wrote:I have a wonderful memory of the Chief. I was returning to St. Ignace on one of the Arnold Line ferries and the Chief just happened to be in our vacinity, returning from Mackinaw city. We were less than 50 ft from her. Sadly, I'd run out of film :x but in my mind, I will never ever forget seeing her in action up close and then being engulfed in her black smoke. I think it was in the late 70's while I was still in college. We who saw her were very lucky..... :shock: :D
IIRC the late 70's was the zenith for MIGN. The Chief made two round trips per day...and lost about $500 per car on every trip :(
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For anyone who is interested, BOATNERD has a several pages of pictures of the Chief in the Historical Perspectives Gallery. Also, my nephew posted some of my poor quality 8 mm movies of the Chief on Youtube. Tim.

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Interesting that one of the issues driving abandonment 30 years ago was the cost of repairs needed to avoid collapse, and it managed to survived this long after that.
True. But it likely would have collapsed a long time ago in daily use.

I just missed it. I was in St Ignace on August 4.
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I was up in St Ignace over the weekend and I got a couple pics of the carnage:
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And does anyone know the vintage of these cars?:
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Nice pics GTF. Thanks for posting. I was out that way in August but did not have time to get over to St. Ignace.
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The full article is now available without a subscription (now that it's over 4 weeks old):
http://www.stignacenews.com/news/2011-0 ... ikely.html
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