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Pioneer RR Northern Indiana Lines Questions

Unread postby jrgerber » Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:30 am

What does the Elkhart and Western have as customers? Power?

Does the KT have any customers besides Kraft?

What is the power and customers for the Argo segment?

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Re: Pioneer RR Northern Indiana Lines Questions

Unread postby AARR » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:29 am

They service a cement terminal and one other customer IIRC. They also have quite a few sidings still in place but unused at this time.
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Re: Pioneer RR Northern Indiana Lines Questions

Unread postby GP30M4216 » Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:22 pm

At one time a few years ago, the EWRR crew also ran the Michigan Southern out of White Pigeon. I think they were on MSO M-W-F and EWRR Tu-Thurs. Not sure if this is still the case.
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Re: Pioneer RR Northern Indiana Lines Questions

Unread postby Bulby » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:35 pm

Elkhart and Western's Elkhart DIv. uses PREX 911 (ex-MILW GP9) and 1000 (ex-IC GP10) for power. Crews come from MSO/White Pigeon or E&W/Argos depending on who's available. Right now MSO crews normally run the KT and Argos crew runs Elkhart; but they are all qualified to run on all 4 railroads. Tuesdays and Thursdays are the best days to catch E&W Elkhart running.

I think KT only has Kraft; plus car storage. They use PREX 16 (ex-LUN SW8).

Elkhart and Western's Argos Div. uses PREX 1600 (ex-CSX GP16) and 2045 (ex-BNSF GP20) for power.
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Re: Pioneer RR Northern Indiana Lines Questions

Unread postby jrgerber » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:41 pm

Thanks Bulby
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Re: Pioneer RR Northern Indiana Lines Questions

Unread postby jrgerber » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:20 am

Who are the customers on the Argos Div?

Wasn't this a Indiana HI-Rail operation at one time?
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Re: Pioneer RR Northern Indiana Lines Questions

Unread postby SD80MAC » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:43 am

Does the Argos division do any interchange with the South Shore, or is the stretch of line between the two still considered embargoed?
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Unread postby justalurker66 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:06 pm

SD80MAC wrote:Does the Argos division do any interchange with the South Shore, or is the stretch of line between the two still considered embargoed?

No interchange. The track is impassable (the crossing at SR 104 is paved over - rails removed and one of the crossing lights is missing).
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Re: Pioneer RR Northern Indiana Lines Questions

Unread postby Super Chief » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:40 am

I see on the Indiana Railroads thread Plymouth has lost two rail served customers recenty. Town is scrambling to get new industries in them. Pioneer switched them both at one time.
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Re: Pioneer RR Northern Indiana Lines Questions

Unread postby AARR » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:00 pm

Do you know who the customers were? Looking at Google Earth there is/was a plastics plant and another who received covered hoppers and tank cars. There is a 3rd spur a little north of the first two but no rail cars on it.
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Re: Pioneer RR Northern Indiana Lines Questions

Unread postby Super Chief » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:39 pm

It was announced February 1st. that DelMonte is closing Thursday, 100 jobs affected, the other was Bay Valley. WSBT reported it. City officials are trying to find new businesses to help offset the loss.
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Re: Pioneer RR Northern Indiana Lines Questions

Unread postby redside20 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:27 pm

Yes are looking bleak but there actually is new business on the horizon. Viking Paper expanded in Plymouth Indiana last year and that included a rail spur to the plant, but I have no idea if they are getting rail shipments right now.

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Re: Pioneer RR Northern Indiana Lines Questions

Unread postby redside20 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:30 pm

Word out on the street is that the CO AG plant in Argos Indiana also expanded last year and is seeing shipments of liquid fertilizer on a weekly basis. Also a scrap dealer opened to rail business this past year in Rochester Indiana.
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