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New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby LakeATCS » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:23 pm

Effective 12:30 p.m., Monday, 10-09-17

New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5
#1 power Crossover has been installed at MP B 501.5, for Westward movements from the Main 2 Track to the Main 1 Track.
#3 power crossover has been installed at MP B 501.4, for Westward movements from the Main 1 Track to Main 2 Track.
#5 power crossover has been installed at MP B 501.3, for Eastward movements from the Main 2 Track to the IHB connection track,
#7 power crossover has been installed at MP B 501.3, for Eastward movements from the Main 1 Track to the Siding Track,

2E Signal located to the left of Main 2 track on a ground mast signal at MP B501.6
4E Signal located to the right of the Main 1 track on a ground mast at MP B501.6
2WD Signal located over and to the right of the IHB Connection track on a bridge mast at MP B 501.3
2W Signal located over and to the right of the Main 2 track on a bridge mast at MP B 501.3 Signal
4W Signal located over and to the right of the Main 1 track on a bridge mast at MP B501.3 Signal
4WD Signal located over and to the right of the Siding track on a bridge mast at MP B 501.3

Note that this is on the ex NKP Chicago District. Not the ex NYC.

While I am not 100% for certain, this may have a display of the IHB for NS.

This puts it right at the IN State Road 152 crossing
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby tttodisp » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:53 am

I spotted a new IHB address 71255610300202 that is testing. Could this be the IHB view for CP Indy?
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby LakeATCS » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:32 pm

tttodisp wrote:I spotted a new IHB address 71255610300202 that is testing. Could this be the IHB view for CP Indy?

With it wedged in between Hohman (NS Calls it Hammond) and Osborn it makes sense.

The curious thing is that rereading the details of the stuff I weed out. Is that It won't be 261 west of Van Loon.
It will remain 251/93. (Basically rule 251 signals, with reverse movements controlled by yard rules. Crazy N&W thing.)
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby tttodisp » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:51 pm

I wondered about staying with 251 territory. Maybe there is not enough traffic to warrant the signal expense to upgrade to 261.
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby 9xs » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:06 pm

LakeATCS wrote:
tttodisp wrote:I spotted a new IHB address 71255610300202 that is testing. Could this be the IHB view for CP Indy?

With it wedged in between Hohman (NS Calls it Hammond) and Osborn it makes sense.

The curious thing is that rereading the details of the stuff I weed out. Is that It won't be 261 west of Van Loon.
It will remain 251/93. (Basically rule 251 signals, with reverse movements controlled by yard rules. Crazy N&W thing.)


The first signal west of Van Loon has bagged reverse signals at the intermediate. And there are places for eastward home signal masts on both tracks at Osborn. While tnere is a repeater signal at State line for the westward, there is none for the other track. There is a NKP vintage approach signal west of Columbia Ave. My guess is that Hohman-Indy-Osborn will be bidirectional single blocks between each CP.

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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby LakeATCS » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:21 pm

From what I saw of the signal aspect setup. Only possible aspect into wrong main moves both ways was restricting.
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby tttodisp » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:23 pm

The new IHB address went off the air this morning about the same time as the CSX and IHB versions of Calumet Park did (testing for new signals and switches at this location), so it must be related to Calumet Park and not CP Indy changes. FYI - it's typical for IHB addresses to go off the air for a day or so during testing.
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby tttodisp » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:39 pm

Playing back for logs for the new address and watching the area next to Calumet Park, the new address is mostly certainly an updated version of IHB CP Calumet Park, not a view of CP Indy.
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby LakeATCS » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:13 pm

Well it looks like NS just tossed us a BIG curveball.

75509210400202

CP Indy. On Channel 6. On the Cummings drawbridge code line. Probably in test mode.
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby LakeATCS » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:30 pm

LakeATCS wrote:Well it looks like NS just tossed us a BIG curveball.

75509210400202

CP Indy. On Channel 6. On the Cummings drawbridge code line. Probably in test mode.



Now they changed their darn minds, or this is a result of some darn Lake/Dearborne division infighting. Now it's on the 217 Lake Division code line on Channel 5.

75502170400202
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby 9xs » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:08 pm

LakeATCS wrote:
Now they changed their darn minds, or this is a result of some darn Lake/Dearborne division infighting. Now it's on the 217 Lake Division code line on Channel 5.

75502170400202


Until Osborn comes up, there is no need show anything other than clear, approach, stop or restricting. After that they will need the diverging aspects and advance approach.
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby LakeATCS » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:26 pm

Now its on a new address, on CH5. but on the 921 code line. Very weird.

75509210100202

Must be some confused signal guys.
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby LakeATCS » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:13 pm

9xs wrote:Until Osborn comes up, there is no need show anything other than clear, approach, stop or restricting. After that they will need the diverging aspects and advance approach.


I don't know if they plan to upgrade Osborne in the future or not. RIght now it seems to remain 251/93. The right hand movements on the main will have clear approach, stop and restricting. Moves off the sidings and the left main will have diverging clear, diverging approach, restricting, and stop.
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby LakeATCS » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:16 pm

Seen about four different addresses.

75502170400202
75509210400202
75509610100202 (no more then 3 or 4 pops)
75509210100202
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby tttodisp » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:12 pm

They are still doing some sort of testing with local control this evening.
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby 9xs » Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:23 pm

IHB crews were out today installing masts for the new NKP signals at Osborn. The westward signals on both tracks will have 3 heads while the eastward signals will have 2.
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby tttodisp » Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:44 pm

Are the IHB signals already the new style?
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby 9xs » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:47 pm

New 3/2 eb and single head wb intermediate signals for both tracks are up at and turned Columbia Ave. with a PTC antenna, about a half mile from the current 503 signal
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby tttodisp » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:22 pm

Thanks for the intell. Looks like 261 territory is coming.

Between Osborn and Van Loon, there should be directional intermediate signals near 173rd Street. It would be interesting to know if new signals are up in that area too.
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Re: New Control Point CP Indy at MP B501.5

Unread postby tttodisp » Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:28 pm

These two locations should be the only intermediates on the double track west of Van Loon.
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