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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby tttodisp » Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:27 pm

That is excellent news. Based on previous history, are we thinking cutover next Monday or more likely the following Monday?
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby LakeATCS » Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:46 pm

Well we saw the CP 426 test address before the CP 423 one.

It usually isn't long after we see the test addresses until we see things go live. But sometimes its over a week, but rarely over two weeks.

10-9 is CP Indy. But that seems to be a Lake division crew doing that.

They may decide to do 426 and 423 at once, we will see.
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby justalurker66 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:22 am

LakeATCS wrote:They may decide to do 426 and 423 at once, we will see.

That would make sense. We are about a week out from when the test for CP 426 was seen so "any time now". :)

(They do need time to install the crossover at CP 423. But they have had two days. :lol: )
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby LakeATCS » Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:31 pm

No idea where it is but there is an unconfigured MCP or something squaking away with an 0000000003 address.
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby LakeATCS » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:02 pm

Effective 12:01 PM, Sunday, 10-01-17

New Controlled Point CP 426 at MP CD 426.4
#1 power switch has been installed at MP CD 426.6, for Eastward movements from the Main 2 Track to the Inbound Track
#3 power crossover has been installed at MP CD 426.5, for Eastward movements from the Main 1 Track to the Main 2 Track
#5 power switch has been installed at MP CD 426.4, for Eastward movements from the Inbound Track to the Outbound Track
#7 power crossover has been installed at MP CD 426.4, for Eastward movements from the Main 2 Track to the Outbound Track.
#9 power crossover has been installed at MP CD 426.4, for Eastward movements from the Main 2 Track to the Main 1 Track.
#11 power switch has been installed at MP CD 426.3, for Eastward movements from the Main 2 Track to the Early Bird Track.
#13 power crossover has been installed at MP CD 426.4, for Eastward movements from the Outbound Track to the Inbound Track.

Westward Home Signal 8W located over and to the right of the Main 1 Track on a cantilever mast at MP CD 426.3
Westward Home Signal 6WA located over and to the right of the Main 2 Track on a cantilever mast at MP CD 426.3.
Westward Home Signal 6WD located over and to the right of the Early Bird Track on a cantilever mast at MP CD 426.3
Westward Home Signal 4W located over and to the right of the Outbound Track on a cantilever mast at MP CD 426.3.
Westward Home Signal 2W located over and to the right of the Inbound Track on a cantilever mast at MP CD 426.3.
Eastward Home Signal 8E located to the left of the Main 1 Track on a high signal mast at MP CD 426.6.
Eastward Home Signal 2E located to the right of the Main 2 Track on a high signal mast at MP CD 426.6.

Eastward Signal 4241E located to the left of the Main 1 Track on a high signal mast at MP CD 424.8.
Eastward Signal 4242E located to the right of the Main 2 Track on a high signal mast at MP CD 424.8.
Westward Signal 4241W located to the right of the Main 1 Track on a high signal mast at MP CD 424.8.
Westward Signal 4242W located to the left of the Main 2 Track on a high signal mast at MP CD 424.8.

Eastward Signal 4291E located to the left of the Main 1 Track on a high signal mast at MP CD 429.2.
Eastward Signal 4292E located to the right of the Main 2 Track on a high signal mast at MP CD 429.2.
Westward Signal 4291W located to the right of the Main 1 Track on a high signal mast at MP CD 429.2.
Westward Signal 4292W located to the left of the Main 2 Track on a high signal mast at MP CD 429.2.
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby LakeATCS » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:10 pm

Effective 12:01PM, Monday, 10-02-17

New Controlled Point CP 423 at MP CD 423.1
#1 power crossover has been installed at MP CD 423.2, for Eastward movements from the Main 1 Track to the Main 2 Track
#3 power crossover has been installed at MP CD 423.2, for Eastward movements from the Early Bird Track to the Main 2 Track.
#5 power crossover has been installed at MP CD 423.1, for Eastward movements from the Main 2 Track to the Main 1 Track
#7 power crossover has been installed at MP CD 423.0, for Eastward movements from the Main 2 Track to the Early Bird Track.

2E located over and to the right of the Main 1 Track on a cantilever mast at MP CD 423.2.
4E located over and to the right of the Main 2 Track on a cantilever mast at MP CD 423.2
6E located over and to the right of the Early Bird Track on a cantilever mast at MP CD 423.2.
2W located over and to the right of the Main 1 Track on a cantilever mast at MP CD 423.0.
4W located over and to the right of the Main 2 Track on a cantilever mast at MP CD 423.0.
6W located over and to the right of the Early Bird Track on a cantilever mast at MP CD 423.0.
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby tttodisp » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:55 pm

It's interesting that they retained the signal numbering from before (non standard), with 8E and 8W on Main 1 instead of the traditional 2E and 2W (like CP 423 and elsewhere).
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby LakeATCS » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:29 pm

tttodisp wrote:It's interesting that they retained the signal numbering from before (non standard), with 8E and 8W on Main 1 instead of the traditional 2E and 2W (like CP 423 and elsewhere).


Since about Laporte. New guy is doing the programing.

Laporte was half the old guy, half the new guy.
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby justalurker66 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:35 pm

The old CP426 WB bridge came down just before 1:15pm. The new WB cantilever was being bolted down at 2:30pm after being turned.

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Cutting apart the old WB signal bridge
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Cranes remove old WB signal bridge
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Cranes turn new WB signal bridge
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby justalurker66 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:53 pm

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New intermediates at 424
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Reused intermediates at 429
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby Saturnalia » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:05 pm

Do you have a list of where all of the reused signals are between 515 and 412? Seems like there are a few popping up now.
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby LakeATCS » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:10 pm

As far as I know, South Bend was the only place outside the WB signals at 358 Butler
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby LakeATCS » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:23 pm

Floodgates are open!
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby justalurker66 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:36 pm

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Westbound signals as the floodgates opened (WB 1 Clear, EB 2 was Advance Approach)
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Back of the eastbound signals with old bridge removed
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby LakeATCS » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:03 pm

Couple extra track circuits. New approach circuit for the outbound.

And the biggest thing, one of those double approach blocks for the inbound.
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby Saturnalia » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:04 pm

LakeATCS wrote:And the biggest thing, one of those double approach blocks for the inbound.

What do you mean by this?
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby justalurker66 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:22 pm

Saturnalia wrote:
LakeATCS wrote:And the biggest thing, one of those double approach blocks for the inbound.

What do you mean by this?

Instead of one approach block on each track (1EA and 2EA) there is an advance approach block (AEA and BEA) for trains that are a little further out. Typically the 1EA or 2EA block would be "ON" if a train is between the CP and the next signal (429 in this case) and the AEA or BEA block would be on if a train is within two signals or more (431 in this case). At some CPs the AEA/BEA blocks overlap the AWA/BWA blocks of the next CP (I do not expect that between CP 435 and CP 426). Older CPs may have AEA/BEA be separate from 1EA/2EA where a train can be in 1EA without AEA being on. (The most recent installations have not kept that separation.)

BTW: If you want to see the signals changed out by the cranes check out the following. The first couple of minutes are real time, the rest is 2X speed.

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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby LakeATCS » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:27 pm

Well sorta. the INBOUND. Ie the south most yard lead. Will look just like the approach circuits into CP 509 off the BRC
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby justalurker66 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:20 pm

LakeATCS wrote:Well sorta. the INBOUND. Ie the south most yard lead. Will look just like the approach circuits into CP 509 off the BRC

Ahh ... I did not catch that you were referring to that specific track.

There is a signal on the inbound (4254E). The signal shows yellow or red. Before the upgrade the track between "5T" and "5WA" did not appear to have a bit assigned (and 5WA seemed to be "occupied" unless a train was cleared to enter the Inbound Runner from the main line). Perhaps with the change the track between the CP and 4254E will now have a bit? (This signal replaced another signal that was at the same location. That particular signal was changed out a few weeks ago.)
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Re: NE Indiana NS Chicago Line PTC project

Unread postby LakeATCS » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:22 pm

The Inbound lead should work just like the Colehour running track off 506/507. And the BRC lead off 509.

CP 423 is up. Not the most accessible thing for pictures. But at least it's receiving!
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