chapmaja wrote:Question about the lines around Fremont.
Looking at the line, there was a line that ran SE from Toledo, through Fremont and then to Bellevue parallel to the current NS line.
What is the history of this line? A portion remains in Fremont, but on either end it shows as abandoned. I assume what is left was to serve customers. The line NE-SW is also abandoned a little bit out of town. The NS mainline from Bellevue to Toledo still runs through Fremont, but turns north as it crosses the river then head NW to Oak Harbor.
Was this a situation where the W&LE and NKP both had trackage from Bellevue to Toledo? When the railroads merged one of the lines became excess and was removed except as needed to serve customers? Also, what was the SW-NE line through town. The map shows it as the Sandusky River Railroad? Did that merge into one of the other railroads long ago.
chapmaja wrote:
Also, looking at the Peavine. I see the ownership changes at Jaybird Rd on the east end of the line. How much of the east end is still in operation coming out from the yard in Portsmouth? I was under the impression the major problem with the line is the bridge over the scioto river. Is that correct, which would basically mean nothing on the east end is accessible.
bdconrail29 wrote:chapmaja wrote:Question about the lines around Fremont.
Looking at the line, there was a line that ran SE from Toledo, through Fremont and then to Bellevue parallel to the current NS line.
What is the history of this line? A portion remains in Fremont, but on either end it shows as abandoned. I assume what is left was to serve customers. The line NE-SW is also abandoned a little bit out of town. The NS mainline from Bellevue to Toledo still runs through Fremont, but turns north as it crosses the river then head NW to Oak Harbor.
Was this a situation where the W&LE and NKP both had trackage from Bellevue to Toledo? When the railroads merged one of the lines became excess and was removed except as needed to serve customers? Also, what was the SW-NE line through town. The map shows it as the Sandusky River Railroad? Did that merge into one of the other railroads long ago.
No. That was the NYC Southern Division that ran from Elyria to Norwalk and back up to Milbury.
chapmaja wrote:Question about the lines around Fremont.
Looking at the line, there was a line that ran SE from Toledo, through Fremont and then to Bellevue parallel to the current NS line.
What is the history of this line? A portion remains in Fremont, but on either end it shows as abandoned. I assume what is left was to serve customers. The line NE-SW is also abandoned a little bit out of town. The NS mainline from Bellevue to Toledo still runs through Fremont, but turns north as it crosses the river then head NW to Oak Harbor.
Was this a situation where the W&LE and NKP both had trackage from Bellevue to Toledo? When the railroads merged one of the lines became excess and was removed except as needed to serve customers? Also, what was the SW-NE line through town. The map shows it as the Sandusky River Railroad? Did that merge into one of the other railroads long ago.
bdconrail29 wrote:chapmaja wrote:Question about the lines around Fremont.
Looking at the line, there was a line that ran SE from Toledo, through Fremont and then to Bellevue parallel to the current NS line.
What is the history of this line? A portion remains in Fremont, but on either end it shows as abandoned. I assume what is left was to serve customers. The line NE-SW is also abandoned a little bit out of town. The NS mainline from Bellevue to Toledo still runs through Fremont, but turns north as it crosses the river then head NW to Oak Harbor.
Was this a situation where the W&LE and NKP both had trackage from Bellevue to Toledo? When the railroads merged one of the lines became excess and was removed except as needed to serve customers? Also, what was the SW-NE line through town. The map shows it as the Sandusky River Railroad? Did that merge into one of the other railroads long ago.
The line SW out of Fremont was also an interurban. It was the Fremont and Fostoria Railway, a joint-subsidiary of the Lake Shore Electric and the Western Ohio Railway. It linked Fremont and Fostoria.
chapmaja wrote:Delta, Ohio question.
Ok, I know there are several lines that go through the Delta area. NS is the IORY which was the DT&I line. EW is the NS line across northern Ohio.
To the south of the IORY yard was the Wabash line that runs from Maumee to Montpelier. This was the line that had a wye on to the north connecting to the west end of the then DT&I, now IORY yard.
What was the track that ran parrallel to the now NS line much of the way, but curved north into Delta on the west side of town before regaining the now NS line east of town. Was their a realignment at some point that took the NS line from in Delta to South of Delta, or did another RR also have tracks through this part of Ohio.
Also, looking at the Peavine. I see the ownership changes at Jaybird Rd on the east end of the line. How much of the east end is still in operation coming out from the yard in Portsmouth? I was under the impression the major problem with the line is the bridge over the scioto river. Is that correct, which would basically mean nothing on the east end is accessible.
bdconrail29 wrote:Oberlin’s first east-west route left the Big Four at Grafton and ran from there to Oberlin-Norwalk-Fremont-Toledo. The Grafton-Oberlin stretch was abandoned and replaced by the Elyria-Oberlin section. The two north-south lines were the Lorain and West Virginia (abandoned 1969) and the Lorain, Ashland, and Southern (abandoned 1926). The Cleveland Southwestern interurban had its Elyria-Norwalk line (abandoned 1923) and the Oberlin-Wellington branch. Lots of activity at one time!
chapmaja wrote:Another question.
East of Montpelier, Oh, the old Wabash Line extends east to Ohio Route 15. What is the purpose of this long extension? Is it used as additional runout space for trains servicing the grain elevator in town?
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