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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby GlassCityPhotos » Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:54 pm

AARR wrote:
redside20 wrote:I didn't know that Andersons had their own dock on the river.
http://www.toledoblade.com/Retail/2014/ ... rized.html

I think there's a couple companies with elevators that can load into ships. Seems like in addition to The Andersons there is also Cargill and possibly a 3rd. Maybe someone can confirm.

Edit: Looks like Kuhlman has a place on the river.


According to http://www.tourtheport.com by the Toledo port authority, the Cargill elevator is operated by The Andersons, which also has its own elevator nearby as AARR mentioned. Across the river, next to the CSX Oakdale Ave yard, is the ADM elevator. Further down the Maumee on the east side is the Kraft flour mill and elevators. According to the website, all of these are capable of being served by both boat and rail. The Khulman facility is interesting because it appears to handle a variety of bulk cargos, not just stone, but it does not appear to have much indoor storage.
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby redside20 » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:51 pm

Webster Industries in expanding in Tiffin, There are some industries served by Omnitrax affiliate Northern Ohio and Western but I'm not sure if Webster is one of them
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby dontknowmuch » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:29 pm

Was over at Cadiz the other day and noticed new track being laid as I getting on the four-lane to head back toward New Philly. Can anyone tell me what's going on?
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby redside20 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:09 pm

dontknowmuch wrote:Was over at Cadiz the other day and noticed new track being laid as I getting on the four-lane to head back toward New Philly. Can anyone tell me what's going on?


Could be for this place...
http://www.harrisonnewsherald.com/?p=10742
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby redside20 » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:12 am

Wisconsin's Bloomer Plastics has bought Delaware Ohio's Optimum Plastics
http://delgazette.com/news/news/1502344 ... onsin-firm

Optimum Plastics is located on the west side of Delaware and has a vary busy rail spur. This was part of the NYC big Line that ran from Delaware to Springfield, so the centerflow hoppers you see sit on the track are literally at the end of the track. Beyond that there isn't any more track until you get to Mechanicsburg.
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby GlassCityPhotos » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:53 pm

The proposed FDS Coke Plant along the Maumee River in Toledo, long assumed to be dead, appears to be creeping back to life. The Ohio Power Siting Board is set to decide today whether or not to extend the plant's electricity co-generation certificate http://dis.puc.state.oh.us/CaseRecord.aspx?CaseNo=07-703&x=0&y=0. The co-generation plant will produce 135 mw of electricity from the steam generated by the coke plant and the approval process required for connecting it to the grid appears to be some of the delay related to this project as numerous connection studies had to be performed. If the coke plant is ever built, it would significantly increase northwest Ohio's rail traffic as it would produce 1.4 million tons of coke from 2 million tons of coal. According to the project's website http://www.fdscokeplant.com/nonrecovery.htm, the coke would be shipped by rail. Since the Toledo coal docks are configured to load boats rather than unload them, most of the coal would probably be received by rail as well.

Based on the Facilities Study for connecting the co-generation plant to the electric grid done early this year, they are now anticipating to begin operations in early 2017. Of course there have been so many delays with this project, one should not expect anything until they finally start to build it.
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby Standard Railfan » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:07 am

GlassCityPhotos wrote:Since the Toledo coal docks are configured to load boats rather than unload them, most of the coal would probably be received by rail as well.


Most (all?) of the Lake carriers are self unloading. All that would be needed to unload the coal from the boats would be a flat spot close enough to the dock. On the other hand, the metallurgical coal needed to make coke is sourced primarily in the Eastern US. I think there is a good chance that the coal would be shipped by rail. There is also a good chance the some of the coke would be shipped by water for export.
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby GlassCityPhotos » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:00 pm

Standard Railfan wrote:Most (all?) of the Lake carriers are self unloading. All that would be needed to unload the coal from the boats would be a flat spot close enough to the dock. On the other hand, the metallurgical coal needed to make coke is sourced primarily in the Eastern US. I think there is a good chance that the coal would be shipped by rail. There is also a good chance the some of the coke would be shipped by water for export.


Good point about the self unloading boats. The site of the planned coke plant has some waterfront access that it would share with the Midwest Rail Ballast Dock on Maumee Bay, so there are definite possibilities for water transport. The project's website http://fdscokeplant.com/nonrecovery.htm does mention that the coke will be "directly loaded to rail cars for shipment to customers", but they would most likely want the flexibility to ship coke by boat as well. But even if half of the coal and coke were shipped by boat, wouldn't the project still have a significant impact on the already congested rail traffic in east Toledo?

As an update, the co-generation project did receive the requested extension by the Ohio Power Siting Board yesterday. The next step would be the signing of an Interconnection Service Agreement with PJM Interconnection that regulates the regional power grid. According to the documents submitted to the siting board with its extension request, the signing of this agreement is expected no later than Nov 1st, 2014.
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby SousaKerry » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:20 pm

Webster Industries in expanding in Tiffin, There are some industries served by Omnitrax affiliate Northern Ohio and Western but I'm not sure if Webster is one of them
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Webster has not had rail service in over 30 years. They manufacture large industrial and mining chains, they do have a small foundry but everything has been trucked for many years. I would highly doubt that they would ever put the tracks back in as most were ripped out or buried. Although I know of one section of track in the woods behind the slag pile that is still there, or was 20 years ago as my Dad farms the field next door.
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby redside20 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:28 pm

Webster has not had rail service in over 30 years

What's more amazing is that they are now one of the biggest employers in town with Toledo Molding & Die, Taiho, LamTech, and even National Machinery close behind. With the exception of LamTech, these major employers in Tiffin have replaced Harvard Industries, American Standard, and even National Machinery who once employed thousands of people who were users of rail. Every so often NM will send out an oversized load by rail though.
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby redside20 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:45 pm

Some bad news out of Lima, Ineos is a closing the Barex plant at the complex
http://www.plasticsnews.com/article/201 ... g-business
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby SousaKerry » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:17 am

What's more amazing is that they are now one of the biggest employers in town with Toledo Molding & Die, Taiho, LamTech, and even National Machinery close behind. With the exception of LamTech, these major employers in Tiffin have replaced Harvard Industries, American Standard, and even National Machinery who once employed thousands of people who were users of rail. Every so often NM will send out an oversized load by rail though.



Let us not also forget GE, Petibone, Tiffin Glass, and ITT abrasives Essex wire, all had rail service as well. Tiffin is a dying town only thing left are a few low paying factory jobs and the hospital.

BTW I used to work for LamTech before they had their own siding, also National Machinery when they actually did ship by rail(their cars haven't moved in over a decade.) I also worked in the ITT, Tiffin Brewery, and GE buildings, and a former division of Pettybone called OCECO. My grand parents met at the Tiffin Glass plant, my dad worked for ITT briefly in the 80's.

Hell I moved to Michigan to get a job 11 years ago as everything in Tiffin was going down the tubes then, and I had burned just about every bridge in town.
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby CG Tower » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:25 am

redside20 wrote:Some bad news out of Lima, Ineos is a closing the Barex plant at the complex
http://www.plasticsnews.com/article/201 ... g-business


"Bad" is relative...the product was not a big rail user. The INEOS plant already has plans to retrofit for new product and the 31 employees are already being gobbled up by either Potash, Husky or Fort Amanda Specailties.

Now if Husky were to close, that would be bad news!

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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby redside20 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:39 pm

"Bad" is relative...the product was not a big rail user. The INEOS plant already has plans to retrofit for new product and the 31 employees are already being gobbled up by either Potash, Husky or Fort Amanda Specailties.

Now if Husky were to close, that would be bad news!


Eric I agree, 35 lost jobs is just a drop in the bucket at that huge industrial complex....A whole Husky complex closure though and that would be lights out for Lima...absolutely devastating if that were to happen. I'm pretty sure that Husky is in for the long haul in Lima.
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby redside20 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:34 pm

A Schulman closes a former Ferro plant in Stryker
http://www.plasticsnews.com/article/201 ... ives-plant

Another lost rail customer on the NS Toledo side..closing this facility within a year after being bought out..boggles my mind.
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby midland sub » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:07 pm

More than likely that was the plan all along.

redside20 wrote:A Schulman closes a former Ferro plant in Stryker
http://www.plasticsnews.com/article/201 ... ives-plant

Another lost rail customer on the NS Toledo side..closing this facility within a year after being bought out..boggles my mind.
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby redside20 » Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:10 am

I was perusing some Plastics Manufacturers websites and stopped on Montpeliers 20/20 Custom Molded Plastics website..And saw this
http://www.2020cmp.com/aerial%20photo.jpg

I didn't know they took in rail shipments of plastic
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby railohio » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:34 pm

Which is plainly visible from the Ohio Turnpike.
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby redside20 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:28 pm

railohio wrote:Which is plainly visible from the Ohio Turnpike.


Indeed it is, as indicated on googlemaps/bing, It's right there as you pass by. And As for myself It's been well over 13 years since I've been to the Montpelier area or on that stretch of the Turnpike.
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Re: Ohio rail business news

Unread postby redside20 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:49 am

Westco in Clark County set to have another record breaking year..
http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/ ... ear/njGct/

Carload numbers are on pace to break 2006 records...interesting news tidbits despites all of I&0 and westcos issues
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