Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

Unread postby penn central » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:58 pm

I can remember pacing next to an Indiana Hi-Rail Alco back about 1994 i think and i remember it was around the Ind-Ohio state line, He had about a dozen cars or so just rocking back and forth badly, It is safe to assume that differed maintenance started catching up to the IHRC quite early.
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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

Unread postby TC Man » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:35 pm

jrgerber wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0EgQBOiB24


This is from 2016- almost got excited thinking it was a new video! :)
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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

Unread postby jrgerber » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:59 am

But kink of nice before and after track rehab efforts in the video.
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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

Unread postby bluestreak81 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:44 pm

Has there been any progress on the crossing removals in Liberty Center?
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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

Unread postby JoJames » Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:03 pm

bluestreak81 wrote:Has there been any progress on the crossing removals in Liberty Center?


Nothing. Unless something took place this last week.
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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

Unread postby Notch 8 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:15 pm

JoJames wrote:
bluestreak81 wrote:Has there been any progress on the crossing removals in Liberty Center?


Nothing. Unless something took place this last week.


Why bother removing them ?
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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

Unread postby Notch 8 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:26 pm

3/29/17 while going from Defiance to Fort Wayne today on 24 I noticed a contractor spraying the ROW.. the line looks like crap still.. got more waves in it then a bag of Lays ! Pioneer has replaced a couple boat loads of ties and looks like I see ballast ! Train was headed east behind the spray truck..
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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

Unread postby JoJames » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:12 pm

Notch 8 wrote:
JoJames wrote:
bluestreak81 wrote:Has there been any progress on the crossing removals in Liberty Center?


Nothing. Unless something took place this last week.


Why bother removing them ?



Requirement of getting the money from the state. Also would have to post stop signs if rails still crossed the pavement.
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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

Unread postby bluestreak81 » Wed May 10, 2017 5:49 pm

Apparently the removal of the Route 24/6 crossing in Napoleon will be taking place soon.

http://m.northwestsignal.net/news/artic ... l?mode=jqm
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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

Unread postby bluestreak81 » Wed May 17, 2017 4:37 pm

Here's a link to photos of the railroad crossing removal:
http://m.northwestsignal.net/news/colle ... ate=dialog
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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

Unread postby SousaKerry » Thu May 18, 2017 7:44 am

How much of the line is being abandoned by cutting these crossings out?
What smells like lube oil and diesel.... Oh wait it's just my "Locomotive Breath"
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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

Unread postby jimnorthwood » Thu May 18, 2017 11:49 am

About 5.5 miles. https://www.stb.gov/decisions/readingro ... enDocument Technically not an abandonment but rather a discontinuance of service between the far east end of the industrial park in Napoleon, just before the US24/6 grade crossing, and Liberty Center. All grade crossings to be removed, with rail in between left in place. So in theory service could be restored someday, although practicality would seem to dictate otherwise. The state of Ohio wanted the US24/6 crossing gone. The grain elevator in LC transloads to another grain elevator that is located on CSX, and then ships from there. The only customer in LC was a transload that I believe was related to the steel mill in Delta (used firebrick in gondolas, maybe). They have relocated to Napoleon. The diamond with I&O seemed to come and go as need required. Tank cars were stored on this stretch sometimes. So although not technically abandoned, it is highly doubtful you'll ever see another train in LC, unless a new connection were to be built from the I&O.
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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

Unread postby Notch 8 » Thu May 18, 2017 10:25 pm

jimnorthwood wrote: The only customer in LC was a transload that I believe was related to the steel mill in Delta (used firebrick in gondolas, maybe). They have relocated to Napoleon. The diamond with I&O seemed to come and go as need required. Tank cars were stored on this stretch sometimes. So although not technically abandoned, it is highly doubtful you'll ever see another train in LC, unless a new connection were to be built from the I&O.


The firebrick was used firebrick but has nothing to do with the steel mill in Delta but actually headed to GHA in Delta, They also have a facility in Kendallville IN in the Industrial Park west of town that is planning on rail service as well. I believe you're correct that LC will never see another train...
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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

Unread postby JoJames » Thu May 18, 2017 10:36 pm

Grain elevator at Liberty Center is owned by the same company building new grain loading facility between Delta and Wauseon on the NS.
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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

Unread postby bluestreak81 » Tue May 30, 2017 4:29 pm

Apparently the railroad crossing in Liberty Center at SR 109 was removed in early May.

http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2017/0 ... -2017.html
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Re: Napoleon, Defiance and Western: The Definitive Thread

Unread postby penn central » Sat Jun 03, 2017 3:51 pm

I was in Defiance last Monday to get roster shots of the ND&W power, On the way home i crossed the now removed crossing on US24, That sure was different, Thats to bad.
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