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Great Lakes and Ohio River Railroad

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The Great Lakes and Ohio River Railroad traces roots way back in the day, but is a recently formed railroad.

The Toledo and Ann Arbor Railroad (TAA) was formed in 1988 to purchase the assets of the Michigan Interstate running from Toledo to Ann Arbor. Operations of the railroad continued in their similar format from the operations during bankruptcy. Soon after purchase, the connecting track was reinstalled in Ann Arbor between the TAA and Conrail.

The TAA immediately granted Conrail trackage rights between Toledo and Ann Arbor. Using these rights, Conrail began operating train JATO between Jackson and Toledo. To assist with the proper transfer or traffic, Conrail installed two yard tracks in Ann Arbor, replace yard tracks which had been removed in the decades prior. Conrail instituted a Willow Run based local (WR-1) to handle traffic between Wayne and Ann Arbor to be attached to JATO. Soon after Conrail reinstated train TOJA which ran over the Ann Arbor, dropping Wayne and Willow Run cars for WR-1 to take back to Willow Run.

Additionally, Grand Trunk was running a single train via trackage rights from Flat Rock to Toledo using the TAA line from Diann to Toledo and NS was running a pair of trains from Oakwood Yard to Toledo via the TAA from Milan to Toledo.

The Ann Arbor would maintain interchange locations with TSBY in Ann Arbor (Osmer), CSX in Toledo, NS in Milan and Toledo, Conrail in Toledo, and the Grand Trunk at Diann and Toledo. Even though there was a connection in Ann Arbor, no traffic was interchanged between the TAA and Conrail in Ann Arbor.
During this time, the TAA employed the use of 3 ex-Conrail GP38’s, 7771, 7791 and 7802.

Additionally, they kept in reserve 2 former Michigan Interstate RS2’s #301 and 303. These units were kept stored serviceable in Toledo and would on occasion be leased out to other organizations for heritage runs. Additionally, the TAA purchases the Temperance Yard from the Grand Trunk, providing service to several customers in this yard.
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The next major change for the railroad occurred in 1989 when the Toledo and Ann Arbor purchased the line from Muskegon to Durand from the Central Michigan Railroad. This line, which had been owned up until 1987 by the Grand Trunk, was sold off as unwanted by the Central Michigan Railroad who had purchased it from the Grand Trunk only two years prior. Along with this purchase, the TAA agreed to a trackage rights agreement running from Ann Arbor (Osmer) to Pitt Jct over the Tuscola and Saginaw Bay (TSBY) and from Pitt Jct to Durand over the Grand Trunk. To accommodate this additional trackage, Ferry Yard in Ann Arbor was reopened and would serve as the southern terminus for tracks MAA and AAM, which operated from Ann Arbor to Muskegon and Muskegon to Ann Arbor as through freights. MAA and AAM would pick up and set out traffic in Durand, and Grand Rapids enroute between Muskegon and Ann Arbor. Once traffic arrived in Ferry Yard it would blocked for transfer via the Ann Arbor's connections in Milan, Diann and Toledo.

To provide service on the line, the TAA leased 4 tracks in the Durand Yard. This would be the home base for local DUR-1, which would operate from Durand west to St. Johns and return. Traffic between St. Johns and Grand Rapids, including the MMRR interchange at Malta, would be handled by train GR-1, based out of the Ann St Yard in Grand Rapids. Henry St Yard in Muskegon would be the home to local MSK-1, which handled traffic between Grand Rapids and Muskegon, but rarely ever went east of Conklin.
The addition of this trackage would create new interchange connections with CSX in Grand Rapids and Muskegon and Conrail in Grand Rapids, as well as Grand Trunk, (via the CMGN) in Durand.

The TAA was in need of additional power and as such searched the used locomotive market, finding several ex Norfolk Southern GP30’s on the market. These were ex-NKP 905, 906, and 908 and ex-N&W 557 and 565 In addition, they purchased former KC Terminal Railroad 73 which was based on Muskegon and handled local Muskegon area traffic and purchased ex-B&O 4802 from Chessie System, which generally ran the locals from Grand Rapids.

In 1991, the TAA would obtain 50% ownership in the Adrian and Blissfield Railroad, but this railroad would be maintained as a separate operating entity for the foreseeable future.

In 1992, the TAA would purchase the MMRR from Ionia south to the connection at Malta. TAA would then institute a Greenville-Lowell local. The Greenville-Lowell local would service all customers on the segment and then block cars at Malta for pickup by trains MAA and GR-1 before returning north. This purchase came with ownership of MMRR GP9 5967, an ex Chessie System locomotive.

At this time, the TAA’s locomotive roster included
SW1200: 73
RS2’s : 301, 303 (Stored Serviceable- Toledo )
GP9 : 5967
GP30’s: 557, 565 905, 906, 908
GP38’s : 4802, 7771, 7791, 7802

1993 would see a minor change to traffic on the TAA. GM would close their Willow Run Plant, causing Conrail to close its Willow Run Yard. WR-1, the local between Wayne and Ann Arbor connecting with the Jackson-Toledo trains . Conrail still runs two trains per day over the Ann Arbor connector between Toledo and Jackson.


The next change would occur in 1995 when the Adrian and Blissfield Railroad would be absorbed into the TAA. In order to accommodate the transaction, the railroad obtained trackage rights to operate from Diann to Riga. Operations of the Adrian and Blissfield Branch would be based out of Blissfield with a pair of daily locals, BLS-1 running from Blissfield to Adrian to interchange with Norfolk Southern and servicing customers in Adrian before returning east to Blissfield to switch local industries in Blissfield. BLS-2, the evening local, would run from Blissfield, via the trackage rights over the Grand Trunk to Diann where they would block outbound cars for both the Grand Trunk and TAA trains to pick up. The absorbing of the Adrian and Blissfield line would include the GP9 locomotives 1 and 2, ex GTW engines 4545 and 4554. The railroad would not absorb the Dinner Train operations, but would lease the trackage to the operator of the dinner train, which would successfully continue operating for the next several decades.

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Re: Great Lakes and Ohio River Railroad

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The railroad would change completely two years later, in 1997, when the Grand Trunk put the ex-DT&I from Springfield to Diann with trackage rights to Flat Rock up for sale. The Indiana and Ohio, who was operating the southern end of the DT&I was thought to be the front runner to take purchase the line. In a surprising move, the TAA purchased the line and reached a merger agreement to merge with the Indiana and Ohio.

The IORY merger was a merger of three different entities. The Indiana and Ohio Railroad, the Indiana and Ohio Railway, and the TAA. The new company would be rebranded as the Cincinnati, Ann Arbor and Toledo Railroad (CAAT).

The operations would be divided into two Divisions, the Northern Division, which included all rails from Toledo north while the Southern Division included the ex-DT&I trackage as well as the former Adrian and Blissfield lines.

The Southern Division would have its northern terminus at Flat Rock, via trackage rights from Diann to Flat Rock over the Grand Trunk. This Southern Division would consist of the ex-DT&I Subdivision between Diann and Washington Court House, Oh, the Adrian Subdivision from Riga to Adrian, Mi, the Mason Subdivision between Mason and Monroe, Ohio, the Brookville Subdivision between Valley Jct, Oh and Brookville, In, The Blue Ash Subdivision between Norwood, Oh and Brecon, Oh, the Oasis Subdivision between Boathouse and Mill, the Mechanicsburg Subdivision between Springfield and Machanicsburg, and the Urbana Subdivision between Springfield and Bellfountaine.

The Southern Division would maintain the previously established trackage rights held by the DT&I and Grand Trunk over CSX from Leisic, Oh and Lima, Oh and over Norfolk Southern from Springfield, Oh to Cincinnati, Oh.

The two divisions of the railroad would generally operate separately with some traffic being interchanged between divisions at Diann. To accommodate the increased interchange traffic in Diann, there was a small yard built as an extension of the wye tracks on the NW Quadrant. Additionally, a wye track was installed on the NE quadrant allowing for easier flow of traffic in and around the new Diann yard.

In 1998 the Southern Division would expand again, with the purchase of the Central Railroad of Indiana and the Central Railroad of Indianapolis. These pruchases greatly increased the presence of the CAAT Railroad. The Southern Division now included trackage from Cincinnati to Shelbyville, Indiana with trackage rights over CSX into Indianapolis.

The next big change occurs when Conrail is split up between Norfolk Southern and CSX. The CAAT attempts to get , but does not receive access to Chicago over the Michigan Line. Operations of the CAAT don’t change significantly due to the Conrail split.

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Looks like you have a nice Regional Railroad going for you
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Re: Great Lakes and Ohio River Railroad

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AARR wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:17 am
Looks like you have a nice Regional Railroad going for you
It will get bigger.

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2002 sees the next change. Seeing a possible opportunity, the CAAT purchases a stretch of trackage between Yuma and Thompsonville, which has been out of service for an extended period of time. This section of trackage is unused and is still connected to the TSBY at Yuma.


The CAAT’s line from Toledo to Ann Arbor is busy with the automobile traffic in Toledo providing a significant source of traffic and a healthy volume of interchange traffic between the TSBY and the CAAT at Osmer. Osmer is still used for interchanging traffic, although Ferry Yard is still in service for blocking cars from the Muskegon branch brought south on train MAA. As a result of the increased traffic, the CAAT purchases three additional locomotives, GP39-2’s number 2368, 2370, 2373.

2004 sees and additional change as the Huron and Eastern and Central Michigan Railroads come together under the Huron and Eastern (HESR) name. The CAAT then purchases a 50% stake in the HESR. The purchase and subsequent agreements give CAAT access to the entire Durand Yard. CAAT performs switching duties for all HESR inbound trains and creates trains for Canadian National to take outbound. This requires the obtainment of additional power, which is a wide variety of lease power from major leasing companies and other railroads.

Also in 2004, the CAAT expands the Southern Division with the lease from CSX of the ex-B&O Columbus to Cincinnati Line. This line will be renamed the Midland Subdivision and connects with the DT&I Subdivision in Washington Court House. The CAAT also obtains a controlling stake in the Chicago Fort Wayne and Eastern Railroad, running between Crestline, Oh and Blue Island, Illinois. This line is run as the Western Division of the railroad and allows access to Chicago directly for the first time.

2005 would see additional changes, as CSX would lease the tracks north of West Olive to the CAAT. CAAT will provide service to all CSX customers in Muskegon and traffic will be routed east to Grand Rapids where CSX bound traffic will handed off to CSX. This will allow replacement of the critical infrastructure on the Grand Haven Swing Bridge. The bridge will remain in place and will be used largely by the Lake Shore Dinner Train, based out of Grand Haven running between West Olive and Muskegon, a new tourist operation the CAAT begins following rehabilitation of the Swing Bridge. City Leaders and boat operators who no longer have to deal with the opening and closing of the swing bridge welcome the removal of freight traffic through Grand Haven. The addition or the traffic and customers in Muskegon requires the CAAT to obtain additional power, as #73 has been on its last legs for while without major work. The railroad decides to lease 3 GP38-‘s from GMTX. Muskegon now becomes home to 3 local trains, up from the 1 previously working. MSK-1 continues to service the GTW based customers and will become the Yard Switching crew upon completion of their local duties. MSK-2 will handle the CSX based traffic. MSK-3 will be a Muskegon to Grand Rapids and Return train, taking all Muskegon Traffic to Grand Rapids.

Additionally, CSX also leases the line from Grand Rapids north to Ludington and Manistee to the CAAT. Traffic on this line will be operated as a separate Division, the Lake Michigan Division, and no traffic will be directly interchanged between the CAAT’s lines despite the crossing of the lines at Fuller Jct. Power will be a combination of short term and long term lease power.

In conjunction with the additional Muskegon traffic coming to Grand Rapids, and the lease of the lines north of Grand Rapids, a “new” Ann St. Yard will be created north of Ann St. Yard. This yard will handle interchange traffic between the Lake Michigan Division (Ludington to Manistee) and CSX as well as Muskegon to CSXor NS Grand Rapids. Traffic from Muskegon bound for other CAAT interchange partners will be left in "old" Ann St yard for pickup by the new trains DGR and GRD, run through trains now running from Durand to Grand Rapids. Traffic between Grand Rapids and Ionia will still be handled by GR-1, the Grand Rapids local, and DUR-1 will still handle traffic west of Durand as far as St. Johns and Ionia. AAM and MAA are abolished trains and are replaced by trains DGR and GRD as well as new trains TD and DT. TD and DT will run from Durand to Toledo. Train TAA/AAT will continue to handle cars from Toledo-Osmer including the cars from Muskegon-Durand and the Osmer interchange as well as working local customers on the Saline Branch, the Milan interchange and the Dundee area. This train now often requires two crews to complete its work.
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2006 sees the next big change to the CAAT. The TSBY line is put up for sale and is purchased by the CAAT. The name of the railroad is changed to the Great Lakes and Ohio River (GLOR).

The purchase reunites the two sections of the old Ann Arbor Railroad with a substantial portion of its former owner, the DT&I's former tracks. As a result of traffic levels in Ann Arbor, and concerns to the University of Michigan campus, Ferry Yard is closed and a new multitrack yard is developed at Osmer.

The current roster of the GLOR’s Northern Division is:
SW1200: 73 (Stored servicable in Muskegon)
RS2’s : 301, 303 (Stored Serviceable- Toledo )
GP9 : 5967
GP35’s: 385, 387 (store unserviceable), 388, 389, 390, 391, 392, 393, 394, 2648, 2681.
GP30’s: 557, 565 905, 906, 908
GP38’s : 4802, 7771, 7791, 7802
GP39-2: 2368, 2373
As well as both short and long term lease power.


The northern division is currently served by the following trains.

MSK-1 : Muskegon local. Services all customers in and around Muskegon proper.
MSK-3 : Muskegon to Grand Rapids and Return. Handles traffic running between Muskegon and Grand Rapids.
GR-1: Grand Rapids to Ionia Local, includes interchange with the LGV Local now based out of Lowell, which works the Greenville Branch.
GR-2: Grand Rapids Yard Switcher. Works cars from locals MSK-3, GR-1, and through freight DGR/GRD as well as making up trains for the NS, CSX interchange in Grand Rapids. Will also work as needed to MarneCoopersville fulfilling rare service to customers on the Coopersville and Marne via haulage rights over the line.
LGV - Lowell to Greenville. Works the line from Lowell to Greenville. Currently waiting on final decision regarding the ElectorLux property as the plant as been closed, ending a major source of traffic for the line. Rare service north of Belding is currently performed.
OWTN - Formerly DUR-1. The Durand west local traffic is now handled by a local based on Owosso. This train runs from Durand west to customers in St. John's and occassionally as far as Ionia.
ONTN-Owosso North Turn - Works traffic from Owosso to Clare including on the Middleton Branch and Oakley Branch.
CSTN- Works customers from Cadillac to Clare and interchanges traffic with the ONTN in Clare.
CNTN - Cadillac North Turn, works all customers from Cadillac north to Traverse City, Petoskey and Yuma.
OSTN- This train now regularly runs only from Owosso to Durand and Return, taking traffic from ONTN and OWTN to Durand. Traffic south of Durand is now handled based out of Ann Arbor. One rare occassions this trains will also run to Cohoctah when service is needed to the elevator.
DGR / GRD - Grand Rapids to Durand run through train. Run through taking traffic between Durand and Grand Rapids.
DUR-1: Formerly the Durand to St. Johns local, this train has transitioned to being the Durand yard switcher. Works traffic from CN and HESR interchange, OSTN, GRD, and TD as well as creating outbound trains for OSTN, DT, DGR, HESR, and GT. Durand yard currently does not have a local based there and only handles switching for other trains.
DT/TD: Toledo to Durand and Durand to Toledo through freights. These trains handle traffic between Ottawa Yard and Durand, with picks ups / set outs at the new Osmer Yard
AA-1: Based out of the new Osmer Yard, AA-1 runs from Osmer north to Howell, but normally only goes as far as the CSX interchange in AnnPere.
AA-2: Based out of the new Osmer Yard, AA-2 runs south from Ann Arbor, serving the Saline Branch, NS interchange in Milan, Dundee Customers and Southern Division Interchange at Diann.
Tol-1: Toledo based local switcher. Switches AA customers in Toledo and will occassionally run as far north as Dundee as needed. Normally will also handle traffic to Temperance Yard for AA customers in the yard.
Tol-2: Toledo baed local switcher, 2nd shift. Switches local industries as needed, as well as breaking down and building TD/DT trains.
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I am enjoying reading this
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2008 would see the next substantial changes on the GLOR as the HESR would be folded into the operations for the GLOR. The HESR, previously having been half owned by the GLOR, consolidates is service into the GLOR. There are not significant operational changes with the purchase, as the HESR and GLOR have been working via switching agreements in Durand for the previous 4 years. In addition, the MMRR from Alma to Paines is also added to the railroad, although not without complaints from LSRC and CSX. LSRC / CSX are granted rights to negotiate haulage contracts for customers on the line between Alma and Paines, although all actual service to customers will be handled by the GLOR locomotives and crews.

The addition of the HESR trackage from Durand to the thumb does create some new opportunities and the GLOR takes advantage. GLOR now bids for and wins the rights to operate the coal traffic to the Consumers Energy plants in Essesville. They have no secured rights to both eastern and western coal trains. Western Coal traffic will be brought from Chicago to Durand where GLOR crews will operate the train to Essexville. Eastern coal is now interchanged between the GLOR and NS in Toledo and runs from Toledo-Durand over the GLOR, before heading to Exxesville on the former HESR trackage. People in Ann Arbor are not happy with the additional heavy traffic on the line, as many remember the days of the Penn Central Coal train derailing in downtown Ann Arbor. The eastern coal trains are running at two trips per week and run with NS power to Durand before GLOR power from the HESR takes over the train to the plant. NS and BNSF prefer that their power not be used in the Bay City area due to track issues near the plant.

This is the first use of "heavy" power on the GLOR between Toledo and Durand and the tracks hold up well.

The Southern Division is still being operated almost as a distinctly separate railroad from the northern division. The biggest news of the Southern Division is the development of Honda's new assembly plant on the GLOR's CIND Subdivision. This will create a substantial new traffic base for the railroad, which has been struggling to keep traffic on the DT&I subdivision.
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Re: Great Lakes and Ohio River Railroad

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AARR wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:50 am
I am enjoying reading this
Now to just make this railroad from a "paper railroad" into a Trainz railroad. I don't think I have the computer power or time to do that though.

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The 2008 Great Lakes and Ohio River Railroad is now running with 5 Divisions.

The Northern Division mainline runs from Toledo, Oh to Cadillac. The following branches and secondary lines run off the mainline.
Saline Branch - Pittsfield Jct to Saline
Muskegon Secondary - From San Yard (Owosso) west to Grand Rapids and Muskegon
Greenville Branch - Malta (Lowell) to Greenville
Fremont Branch - Berry Jct (North Muskegon) to Fremont.
Oakley Branch - Owosso to Chesaning, Michigan (Service only as far as Oakley)
Middleton Branch - Ashley to Middleton.
Yuma Branch - Cadillac to Thompsonville (Out of Service beyond Yuma).
Petoskey Branch - Cadillac to Petoskey
Traverse City Secondary - Walton Jct to Traverse City with branches to Williamsburg and Grawn


The Saginaw Bay Division runs from Durand to Saginaw and eastward through the Thumb to Croswell.

The Saginaw Bay Division Consists of 3 Subdivisions, the Bay City Subdivision and the Thumb subdivision and the Vassar Subdivision.

The Bay City Subdivision mainline runs from Durand to Bay City with the following branches.
Alma Branch - Saginaw to Alma (connects to Northern Division in Alma)
The Essexville Branch - Bay City to Exxesville
The Midland Secondary - Bay City to Midland
The D&M Branch - Bay City connection to LSRC in Bay City.

The Thumb Subdivision runs from Saginaw eastward through Reese to Crosswell and has the following branches. (Uses trackage rights over Saginaw River to access Bay City Subdivision)
Kinde Branch - Bas Axe to Kinde
Ruth Branch - Palms to Ruth

The Vassar Subdivision connected to the Thumb Subdivision in Reese and has a mainline from Munger to Millington with the following branches
Gera Branch - Vassar to Gera
Caro Branch - Vassar to Caro
Brown City Branch - Vassar to Brown City.



The Lake Michigan Division runs from Fuller Jct (Grand Rapids) to Ludington and contains the following branches
Manistee Branch - Walhall to Mainistee


The Southern Division runs from Flat Rock to Cincinnati and to Indianapolis (Flat Rock to Diann and Shelbyvill to Indianapolis via trackage rights)
The Southern Division contains the following subdivisions. The Southern Division interchanges with the Northern Division at Diann

Adrian Subdivision. - Riga to Adrian
DT&I Subdivison - Flat Rock to Washington Court House, Oh
Mason Subdivision - Mason, Oh to Monroe, Oh
Brookville Subdivision - Valley Jct, Oh and Brookville, In,
The Blue Ash Subdivision - Norwood, Oh and Brecon, Oh
Oasis Subdivision between Boathouse and Mill,
Mechanicsburg Subdivision - Springfield, Oh and Machanicsburg, Oh
Urbana Subdivision - Springfield, Oh and Bellfountaine, Oh
Midland Subdivision - Columbus, Oh to Cincinnati, Oh
CIND Subdivision- Cincinnati, Oh to Shellbyville, In (Trackage rights to Indianapolis, In)
CERA Subdivision - Hartford City, Indiana to Kokomo, In


The Western Division of the Great Lakes and Ohio River Railroad exists as a single division with no subdivisions.

The mainline runs from Crestline, Oh to Gary, Indiana with trackage rights to Blue Island, Illinois and contains the following branches
Decatur Branch - New Haven, In to Decatur, In.

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Nice, I like the idea of the AA being used as a bridge line by the bigger roads. Any updates on the roster?

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The expansion of the Great Lakes and Ohio River has required a significant capital outlay in terms of new equipment purchases over the last several years. Many locomotives have been carried over from previous owners, but new leases and purchases have been required to keep up with the demands of an ever expanding network.

The locomotive roster for the GLOR is as diverse as the lines on which it runs. The roster will be broken down by Division as the railroad generally keeps locomotives within their assigned division unless they need to be moved elsewhere for service or assistance with the needs of the railroad.

2008 Locomotive Roster:

Northern Division: -
SW1200: 73 (Stored servicable in Owosso)
SW1200RS: 1367 (Part source)
NW2: 1977 (Stored servicable in Owosso)
RS2: 301 and 303 (Stored servicable in in Owosso) These units also are leased to tourist operations and the SRI in Owosso on an as needed basis.
GP9: 24, 179, 180, 5967
GP30: 557, 565 905, 906, (908 suffered mechanical issues and was scrapped in 2006 along with 388)
GP35: 385, 387, 389, 390, 391, 392, 393, 394, 2648, 2681. 387 was returned to service with the railroad after the purchase after sitting in the deadline for years. 388 was involved in a wreck and was scrapped in 2006.
GP38: 4802, 5080, 7771, 7791, 7802
GP38-2 (leased): GMTX 2663, GMTX 2675,
GP39-2: 2368, 2373


Lake Michigan Division:
SW9 (Leased) GLLX 4 (Stored OOS in Manistee)
GP38-2 (Leased): GMTX 2635, 2648, 2652, 2676
SD40-2 (Leased) GLLX 3001, 3002, 3003

The rosters for the other divisions with be released in the coming days.

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Great Lakes and Ohio River Locomotive Roster (continued)

The Saginaw Bay Division Locomotive Roster is as follows:
SW1200: 998, 999
GP9: 1471
GP38: 3852
GP38-2: 201, 202, 203, 204, 2014
GP38AC: 8802, 8804
GP40-2LW: 9712
C30-7: 5075 (parts source). 5175, 5086
B30-7AB: 2001, 2002, 4065
B30-7: 5492,
U23B: 8903, 8904, 8905

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It’s on its way to becoming a Class 1 🙂
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Re: Great Lakes and Ohio River Railroad

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AARR wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:50 am
It’s on its way to becoming a Class 1 🙂
It will never quite reach that level. More information coming on the future years of the railroad including traffic levels and customers.

First, working on the 2008 locomotive roster and then roster updates / renumbering which happen in the years after 2008.

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The Southern and Western Divisions of the Great Lakes and Ohio River Railroad roster contains a large variety of power. Power is generally kept locally however some changes are done as needed due to the needs of the railroad. The railroad does have trouble actually taking the torch to old power, so they have a substantial deadline of power as well as the currently active power. Some of the deadline power is being used to keep other units alive on the railroad. In additional several units are being leased to maintain the necessary power levels on the every expanding system.

The remainder of the GLOR's 2008 roster is as follows:
MP15AC (leased): HLCX 1400, HLCX 1401
SW1500: 2342
GP9: 1, 2, 1955, 1958, 1959, 1960 (all based in Adrain)
GP30: 81, 82, 83, 84, (stored unservicable) 85 (leased to Cincinnatti Railway Company), 2251 (stored unservicable), 2252 (stored servicable), 2253 (stored unservicable), 2255 (stored unservicable)
GP30M: 86
GP38-2: 3880, 3881, 3882, 3883, 3384, 3885, 3886, 3887, 3888, 3889
GP38-2 (leased): LLPX 2602, LLPX 2611
GP38-3 (leased)L CEFX 6671
GP40: 4008, 4023, 4024, 4030, 4032, 4034, 4036
GP40 (leased) CSCD 6637
GP50: 5000, 5001, 5002, 5003, 5004, 5005, 5008, 5013, 5014
SD40-2 4082, , 4083, 4084, 4085, 5678
SD40-2 (leased): NREX 5597, NREX 5678, CEFX 3092,
SD40T-2: 4070, 4071, 4072
SD45T-2 (leased) CEFX 9362, CEFX 9392, CEFX 9400
SD45R: 9500
SD70 - leased: NYSW 4050, 4052, 4054

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Re: Great Lakes and Ohio River Railroad

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Compiled Great Lakes and Ohio River Railroad Locomotive Roster 5-31-2008
The remainder of the GLOR's 2008 roster is as follows:

Owned Equipment
NW2: 1977 (Stored servicable in Owosso)

SW1200: 73, 998, 999

SW1200RS: 1367 (Part source)

SW1500: 2342

RS2: 301 and 303 (Stored servicable in in Owosso) These units also are leased to tourist operations and the SRI in Owosso on an as needed basis.

GP9: 1, 2, 24, 179, 180, 1471, 1955, 1958, 1959, 1960, 5967

GP30: 81, 82, 83, 84, (stored unserviceable) 85 (leased to Cincinnati Railway Company), 557, 565 905, 906, 2251 (stored unserviceable), 2252 (stored serviceable), 2253 (stored unserviceable), 2255 (stored unserviceable)GP30M: 86

GP35: 385, 387, 389, 390, 391, 392, 393, 394, 2648, 2681.

GP38: 3852, 4802, 5080, 7771, 7791, 7802

GP38-2: 201, 202, 203, 204, 2014, 3880, 3881, 3882, 3883, 3884, 3885, 3886, 3887, 3888, 3889

GP38AC: 8802, 8804

GP39-2: 2368, 2373

GP40: 4008, 4023, 4024, 4030, 4032, 4034, 4036

GP40-2LW: 9712

GP50: 5000, 5001, 5002, 5003, 5004, 5005, 5008, 5013, 5014

SD40-2 4082, , 4083, 4084, 4085, 5678

SD40T-2: 4070, 4071, 4072

SD45R: 9500

C30-7: 5075 (parts source). 5175, 5086

B30-7AB: 2001, 2002, 4065

B30-7: 5492,

U23B: 8903, 8904, 8905

Leased Equipment:

MP15AC: : HLCX 1400, HLCX 1401

GP38-2: LLPX 2602, 2611, GMTX 2635, 2648, 2652, 2663, 2675, , 2676

GP38-3 : CEFX 6671

GP40 CSCD 6637

SD40-2 : NREX 5597, 5678, CEFX 3092, GLLX 3001, 3002, 3003

SD45T-2: CEFX 9362, CEFX 9392, CEFX 9400

SD70 - NYSW 4050, 4052, 4054

Notes:

387 was returned to service with the railroad after the purchase after sitting in the deadline for years.

SW9 : GLLX 4 is owned by a private own who is storing the unit in Manistee for a price reduction on the lease for 3001, 3002, 3003.

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Re: Great Lakes and Ohio River Railroad

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2008 Schedule of Jobs - Great Lakes and Ohio River Railroad
Northern Division
All trains work Monday through Friday unless otherwise specified. Saturday / Sunday Service is as needed
MSK-1
On Duty 07:30
Works all customers in the Muskegon Cluster as needed. Runs to Fremont as needed.

MSK-3
On Duty 19:30
Blocks train for Grand Rapids Connections
1. Local Customers – Ravenna /Conklin/ Coopersville and Marne Interchange
2. CSX Interchange
3. NS Interchange
4. Durand
5. GR-2 and Lake Michigan Division Customers
Transfers Cars to New Ann Street Yard in Grand Rapids
Works St. Mary's Cement as needed.

GR-1 Grand Rapids to Ionia Local
On Duty 10:00
Works all customers from Grand Rapids to Ionia. Interchanges cars with LGV Local bound for Grand Rapids Interchange.

GR-2 Grand Rapids Yard Switcher
On Duty 22:00
Works Ann St Yard Transload, and GR Press Branch
Breaks down BGR, DGR, GR-1, MSK-3, CSX Interchange and NS Interchange consists.
Creates blocks for NS Interchange, CSX Interchange, GRD, MSK-3, GR-1, GRB NB Customers, BGR SB Customers Day 2.

LGV- Lowell to Greenville Local
On Duty 14:00
Works all customers on the Greenville Branch
Blocks cars for GR-1 and DGR/GRD

DGR/GRD – Durand to Grand Rapids and Return through freight.
On Duty 02:00
Carries cars blocked for
1. LGV
2. GR-1
3. MSK-3
4. CSX Interchange
5. NS Interchange
Returns with cars from MSK-3, GR-1,CSX and NS Interchange and LGV Eastbound direction Stops in Malta Westbound to drop off LGV cars and stops eastbound to pick up cars from LGV Interchange.

OWTN- Owosso West Turn
On Duty: 14:00
Local servicing customers in Owosso proper, as far west as St. Johns and occasionally Ionia as needed. May also work Oakley Branch as needed.
Runs opposite schedule for DGR/GRD due to lack of passing sidings between Owosso and St. Johns.

ONTN – Owosso North Turn
On Duty: 07:00
Service all customers between Owosso and Clare as well as interchange with the Alma Branch and works Middleton Branch as needed.

OSTN – Owosso South Turn
On Duty : 04:00
Collects cars from OWTN and ONTN connections and delivers them to Durand for processing by DUR-1. Picks up cars bound for OWTN and ONTN. Upon return to Owosso, blocks cars for both OWTN and ONTN. May work as far as Cohoctah Elevator as needed.

CSTN – Cadillac South Turn
On Duty : 07:00
Takes cars from CNTN Southbound, working customers between Cadillac and Clare inclusive. Exchanges cars with ONTN. Blocks cars for CNTN Destinations before leaving Clare.


CNTN – Clare North Local
On Duty 19:00
Works cars on Yuma Branch, TC Branch and Petoskey Branches as well as local Cadillac customers. If time permits, crew will block cars for delivery by OSTN to DUR-1.

DUR-1 – Durand Yard Switcher -
On duty : 11:00
Breaks down inbound trains TD, OSTN, GRD, BCD and CN Interchange and blocks cars as follows:
1. GT Interchange
2. OSTN -
3. DBC –
4. CSX-Ann Pere (DT)
5. Ann Arbor (DT)
6. NS Milan Interchange (DT)
7. Southern Division Interchange (DT)
7. NS Toledo (DT)
8. CSX Toledo (DT)
9. WLE Toledo (DT)
10. Toledo Local customers (DT)
OSTN or DUR-1 may work Glaser’s Lumber in Vernon


TD – Toledo to Durand
On Duty : 12:00
Runs traffic from Toledo blocked as follows.
1. Southern Division Interchange.
2. NS Milan
3. Ann Arbor.
4. CSX Ann Pere
5. Durand.
TD will make the following pickups and setouts
1. Diann Yard.
Pick up Block 6. Southern Division Northbound
Set out Block 1. Southern Division Interchange.
2. Ann Arbor Osmer Yard Set Outs
2. NS Milan Interchange
3 Ann Arbor Local Traffic
3. CSX Ann Pere Interchange
3. Ann Arbor Osmer Yard Picks up Block 5 Durand.

DT – Durand to Toledo
On Duty 00:00
Runs traffic from Durand to Toledo blocks as follows.
1A. CSX – Ann Pere
2. Ann Arbor – Local Traffic
3. Ann Arbor NS Milan Interchange
4. Ann Arbor-Southern Division Interchange
5. Toledo NS
6. Toledo CSX
7. Toledo WLE
8. Toledo Local Customers
DT will make the following pick ups and set outs between Durand and Toledo
1. CSX Interchange –Ann Pere
1. Set off block 1A.
2. Pick up Block 1B. CSX Interchange
2. Ann Arbor Osmer Yard –
Set off blocks
1B. Traffic from CSX Interchange
2. Ann Arbor Local Traffic,
3. NS Milan-Interchange and
4. Southern Division Interchange
Pick Up Blocks
5. Toledo – NS
6. Toledo – CSX
7. Toledo – WLE
AA-1 Ann Arbor North Local
On Duty 07:00
Breaks down setouts from Trains DT and TD. Then works customers from Ann Arbor North to Howell. Delivers cars set out by TD to CSX –Ann Pere. May pick up interchange cars if present. Upon return, blocks cars for TD and DT destinations.
AA-2 Ann Arbor South Local
On Duty : 10:00
Works customers in Ann Arbor, Saline Branch, NS Milan Interchange, Dundee and Southern Division Interchange and returns. Blocks cars as needed for pickup by DT and TD.

TOL-1 Toledo First Shift
On Duty : 06:00
Works customers in and around Toledo. This shift generally handles the Temperance Yard customers. Will generally spend second half of creating trains for Toledo Interchange partners.
TOL-2 Toledo Second Shift
On Duty : 14:00
Assists TOL-1 As needed breaking down DT for interchange partners. Breaks down interchange trains from CSX, NS and WLE for TD and local customers.
TOL-3 Toledo Third Shift
On Duty: 22:00
Works local Toledo customers as needed
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Re: Great Lakes and Ohio River Railroad

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Schedule for Lake Michigan Division

BGR/GRB Baldwin to Grand Rapids to Baldwin

On duty: 06:00

Runs from Baldwin to Grand Rapids and return with traffic from northern end of the Lake Michigan Division. Switches local customers between Baldwin and Grand Rapids. Blocks traffic for train BL upon return to Baldwin.

1. Soutbound GRB Customers - Day 2.
2. Manistee Local. (BL)
3. Ludington Local. (BL)


GR-3 Grand Rapids Extra Crew

On duty: As needed

Extra Crew based out of Grand Rapids. Will run any direction from Grand Rapids Yard to service customers or assist other trains. May also run grain trains to White Cloud.


LB/BL Ludington to Baldwin and Return
On Duty: 18:00

Ludington to Baldwin and return local freight. Picks up cars at Walhalla from Manistee Branch. Breaks down cars for Ludington Local as time allows.


LUD-1 Ludington Local Switcher

On Duty 06:00

Works Local customers in Ludington. Builds outbound LB Train.


MW/WM Manistee to Walhall and Return

On Duty 17:00

Road Freight / Local between Manistee and Walhalla. Switches customers as needed between Walhalla and Manistee. Exchanges cars with trains LB/BL in Walhalla. Breaks down cars for Manistee Local upon return as time allows.



MAN-1 Manistee Local Switcher

On Duty: 06:00

Switches local customers in Manistee area. Builds train MW after finising local service.

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