Grand Trunk Western

[atrainguy60]

Set in the same universe as the L&SM, the GTW succeeded in buying part of the Milwaukee Road in the 1980's; making a deal with the SOO, the GTW received the CHI-KC line, and the line up the Mississippi from Sabula, IA to La Crescent, MN. SOO got the rest, namely Bensenville Yard and the main line through Wisconsin and into the Twin Cities, with GTW having trackage rights into the Twin Cities. GTW survived on through the 90's and into present day, where it is now a big modern railroad with access to many of the major cities in the midwest. It still has close connections with Canadian National, and CN runs some trains to Chicago. It should be noted that the GTW has trimmed some lines over the years, such as the Durand to Muskegon and Greenville lines, and the Thumb lines. It still owns the lines to the Saginaw area, giving it direct access to DOW chemical and the Consumers Energy Plant. It also shed the old DT&I south of Flat Rock.

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Now, as for trains the GTW runs:

100 Series Autorack AND Intermodal

100 - Hammond, IN to Flint, MI - Daily
101 - Flint, MI to Hammond, IN - As Needed
102 - Flint, MI to Toledo, OH - Daily
103 - Toledo, OH to Flint, MI - Daily
104 - Hammond, IN to Flat Rock, MI - As Needed
105 - Flat Rock, MI to Hammond, IN - Daily
106 - Hammond, IN to Pontiac, MI - As Needed
107 - Pontiac, MI to Hammond, IN - As Needed
109 - Flat Rock, MI to Minneapolis, MN - Daily
110 - Chicago, IL to Ferndale, MI - Daily(Haulage Rights-BNSF)
111 - Ferndale, MI to Chicago, IL - Daily(Haulage Rights-BNSF)
112 - Kansas City, MO to Ferndale, MI - Daily
113 - Ferndale, MI to Kansas City, MO - Daily

200 Series Long Distance General Merchandise

200 - Minneapolis, MN to Chicago, IL - Daily(carries some intermodal)
201 - Chicago, IL to Minneapolis, MN - Daily(carries some intermodal)
202 - Kansas City, MO to Chicago, IL - Daily
203 - Chicago, IL to Kansas City, MO - Daily
204 - Kansas City, MO to Minneapolis, MN - Daily
205 - Minneapolis, MN to Kansas City, MO - Daily
206 - Chicago, IL to Flat Rock, MI - Daily(carries some intermodal)
207 - Flat Rock, MI to Chicago, IL - Daily(carries some intermodal)
208 - Chicago, IL to Sarnia, ON - Daily
209 - Sarnia, ON to Chicago, IL - Daily

300 Series Short Distance General Merchandise

300 - Chicago, IL to Battle Creek, MI - Daily
301 - Battle Creek, MI to Chicago, IL - Daily
302 - Bay City, MI to Pontiac, MI - Mon thru Sat
303 - Pontiac, MI to Bay City, MI - Mon thru Sat
304 - Battle Creek, MI to Pontiac, MI - Daily
305 - Pontiac, MI to Battle Creek, MI - Daily
306 - Toledo, OH to Sarnia, ON - Daily
307 - Sarnia, ON to Toledo, OH - Daily
308 - Toledo, OH to Pontiac, MI - Daily
309 - Pontiac, MI to Toledo, OH - Daily
312 - Davenport, IA to Chicago, IL - Mon thru Sat
313 - Chicago, IL to Davenport, IA - Mon thru Sat

400 Series Locals

400 - Battle Creek, MI to Lansing, MI - Mon thru Sat - Turn
401 - Battle Creek, MI to South Bend, IN - Mon thru Sat - Turn
402 - Flint, MI to Port Huron, MI to Flint, MI - Mon thru Sat - Turn
403 - Flint, MI to Pontiac, MI - Mon thru Sat - Turn
404 - Flat Rock, MI to River Rouge, MI - Daily - Turn
406 - Flat Rock, MI to Dearborn, MI - Daily - Turn
408 - Pontiac, MI to Detroit, MI - Daily - Turn
410 - Detroit, MI to Port Huron, MI - Daily - Turn
411 - Savannah, IL to Dubuque, IA - Mon thru Sat - Turn
412 - Savannah, IL to Elgin, IL - Mon thru Sat - Turn
413 - Davenport, IA to Ottumwa, IA - Mon thru Sat - Turn
414 - Kansas City, MO to Chillicothe, MO - Mon thru Sat - Turn
416 - Toledo, OH to Flat Rock, MI to Toledo, OH - Daily - Turn
417 - Battle Creek, MI to Kalamazoo, MI - Mon thru Fri - Turn
418 - Pontiac, MI to Lake Orion, MI - Daily - Turn
420 - Chicago, IL to Wellsboro, IN - Daily - Turn

500 Series Trackage Rights Trains

500 - Chicago, IL to Montreal, QC - Daily(CN) - Intermodal
501 - Montreal, QC to Chicago, IL - Daily(CN) - Intermodal
502 - Chicago, IL to Toronto, ON - Daily(CN) - Manifest
503 - Toronto, ON to Chicago, IL - Daily(CN) - Manifest
504 - Chicago, IL to Toronto, ON - Daily(CN) - Manifest
505 - Toronto, ON to Chicago, IL - Daily(CN) - Manifest
506 - Chicago, IL to ??? - As Needed(Oil)
507 - ??? to Chicago, IL - As Needed(Oil)
508 - Chicago, IL to ??? - As Needed(Oil)
509 - ??? to Chicago, IL - As Needed(Oil)
510 - Memphis, TN to Toronto, ON - Daily(CN) - Manifest
511 - Toronto, ON to Memphis, TN - Daily(CN) - Manifest

600 Series Coal

600 - Chicago, IL to Bay City, MI - As Needed
601 - Bay City, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
602 - Chicago, IL to Lansing, MI - As Needed
603 - Lansing, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
604 - Chicago, IL to Monroe, MI - As Needed
605 - Monroe, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
606 - Chicago, IL to Erie, MI - As Needed
607 - Erie, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
608 - Chicago, IL to Lansing, MI - As Needed
609 - Lansing, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
610 - Chicago, IL to Port Huron, MI - As Needed
611 - Port Huron, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed

700 Series Grain/Steel/TankTrain

700 - Auburn, MI to Toledo, OH - As Needed - Grain
701 - Toledo, OH to Auburn, MI - As Needed - Grain
702 - Gary, IN to Detroit, MI - As Needed - Steel
703 - Detroit, MI to Gary, IN - As Needed - Steel
704 - Toledo, OH to Lapeer, MI - As Needed - Grain
705 - Lapeer, MI to Toledo, OH - As Needed - Grain
707 - Sarnia, ON to Bay City, MI - As Needed - TankTrain
708 - Bay City, MI to Sarnia, ON - As Needed - TankTrain

800 Series Work Trains

900 Series Passenger

900 - Chicago, IL to Port Huron, MI - Daily - Amtrak
901 - Port Huron, MI to Chicago, IL - Daily - Amtrak
902 - Chicago, IL to Pontiac, MI - Daily - Amtrak
903 - Pontiac, MI to Chicago, IL - Daily - Amtrak
904 - Chicago, IL to Pontiac, MI - Daily - Amtrak
905 - Pontiac, MI to Chicago, IL - Daily - Amtrak
906 - Chicago, IL to Pontiac, MI - Daily - Amtrak
907 - Pontiac, MI to Chicago, IL - Daily - Amtrak

[AARR]

Impressive research! Here are some current frequencies of the 600 Series Coal trains

600 - Chicago, IL to Bay City, MI - 2x per week, 6 mo. per year.
601 - Bay City, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
602 - Chicago, IL to Lansing, MI - Every 3 days
603 - Lansing, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
604 - Chicago, IL to Monroe, MI - 7x per week
605 - Monroe, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
606 - Chicago, IL to Erie, MI - 1x per week
607 - Erie, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
608 - Chicago, IL to Lansing, MI - Every 10-11 days
609 - Lansing, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed

If you want some extra fun add a daily coal train from Chicago to Port Huron for the St. Clair power plants. CSX gets the eastern coal but perhaps your GTW can get the western coal.

[atrainguy60]

Impressive research! Here are some current frequencies of the 600 Series Coal trains

600 - Chicago, IL to Bay City, MI - 2x per week, 6 mo. per year.
601 - Bay City, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
602 - Chicago, IL to Lansing, MI - Every 3 days
603 - Lansing, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
604 - Chicago, IL to Monroe, MI - 7x per week
605 - Monroe, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
606 - Chicago, IL to Erie, MI - 1x per week
607 - Erie, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
608 - Chicago, IL to Lansing, MI - Every 10-11 days
609 - Lansing, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed

If you want some extra fun add a daily coal train from Chicago to Port Huron for the St. Clair power plants. CSX gets the eastern coal but perhaps your GTW can get the western coal.

Thanks for additional info on the coal trains! I think I'll do what you suggested about the coal trains for St Clair. I did briefly wonder about that power plant, but I didn't think about moving western coal to it. This way, both my railroads can have the business.

This and the L&SM are kinda based off of some "what if" scenarios I've thought about before. Such as, "what if GTW succeeded in merging with the MILW" or "what if the former PM line from Midland to Baldwin was still in place". It's fun imagining what things would be like today if history went a different direction.

[AARR]

It's fun imagining what things would be like today if history went a different direction.

I do the same thing. I haven't updated my paper railroads on this board in a long time but I do so at home

[atrainguy60]

I just edited the train list and added two trains to the list: 112 and 113. These trains were previously Q131 and Q132 on CSX, but GTW and KCS have won over the traffic. The trains will be interchanged between GTW and KCS at Kansas City.

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A large grain elevator facility is scheduled to be completed this June in Washington, IA. This facility began ground breaking last May, and has a 5,000,000 million bushel capacity. Located on the GTW Chicago to KC main, near Ottumwa, the sidings will allow for outbound 90 car grain trains, as well as occasional inbound fertilizer trains. Most of the grain will be sent to the KCS in Kansas City, to be exported into Mexico, although some grain will be taken to Chicago for interchange with other railroads. The GTW plans to receive some potash traffic from CP at St Paul. It is also negotiating with the L&SM about interchanging Potash in Port Huron.

[atrainguy60]

Now, as for trains the GTW runs:

100 Series Autorack AND Intermodal

100 - Hammond, IN to Flint, MI - Daily
101 - Flint, MI to Hammond, IN - As Needed
102 - Flint, MI to Toledo, OH - Daily
103 - Toledo, OH to Flint, MI - Daily
104 - Hammond, IN to Flat Rock, MI - As Needed
105 - Flat Rock, MI to Hammond, IN - Daily
106 - Hammond, IN to Pontiac, MI - As Needed
107 - Pontiac, MI to Hammond, IN - As Needed
109 - Flat Rock, MI to Minneapolis, MN - Daily
110 - Chicago, IL to Ferndale, MI - Daily(Haulage Rights-BNSF)
111 - Ferndale, MI to Chicago, IL - Daily(Haulage Rights-BNSF)
112 - Kansas City, MO to Ferndale, MI - Daily
113 - Ferndale, MI to Kansas City, MO - Daily

200 Series Long Distance General Merchandise

200 - Minneapolis, MN to Chicago, IL - Daily(carries some intermodal)
201 - Chicago, IL to Minneapolis, MN - Daily(carries some intermodal)
202 - Kansas City, MO to Chicago, IL - Daily
203 - Chicago, IL to Kansas City, MO - Daily
204 - Kansas City, MO to Minneapolis, MN - Daily
205 - Minneapolis, MN to Kansas City, MO - Daily
206 - Chicago, IL to Flat Rock, MI - Daily(carries some intermodal)
207 - Flat Rock, MI to Chicago, IL - Daily(carries some intermodal)
208 - Chicago, IL to Sarnia, ON - Daily - Works Flint
209 - Sarnia, ON to Chicago, IL - Daily - Works Flint

300 Series Short Distance General Merchandise

300 - Chicago, IL to Battle Creek, MI - Daily
301 - Battle Creek, MI to Chicago, IL - Daily
302 - Bay City, MI to Pontiac, MI - Mon thru Sat - Works Durand
303 - Pontiac, MI to Bay City, MI - Mon thru Sat - Works Durand
304 - Battle Creek, MI to Pontiac, MI - Daily - Works Lansing
305 - Pontiac, MI to Battle Creek, MI - Daily - Works Lansing
306 - Toledo, OH to Sarnia, ON - Daily
307 - Sarnia, ON to Toledo, OH - Daily
308 - Toledo, OH to Pontiac, MI - Daily
309 - Pontiac, MI to Toledo, OH - Daily
312 - Davenport, IA to Chicago, IL - Mon thru Sat
313 - Chicago, IL to Davenport, IA - Mon thru Sat

400 Series Locals

400 - Battle Creek, MI to Lansing, MI - Mon thru Sat - Turn
401 - Battle Creek, MI to South Bend, IN - Mon thru Sat - Turn
402 - Flint, MI to Port Huron, MI to Flint, MI - Mon thru Sat - Turn
403 - Flint, MI to Pontiac, MI - Mon thru Sat - Turn
404 - Flat Rock, MI to River Rouge, MI - Daily - Turn
406 - Flat Rock, MI to Dearborn, MI - Daily - Turn
408 - Pontiac, MI to Detroit, MI - Daily - Turn
410 - Detroit, MI to Port Huron, MI - Daily - Turn
411 - Savannah, IL to Dubuque, IA - Mon thru Sat - Turn
412 - Savannah, IL to Elgin, IL - Mon thru Sat - Turn
413 - Davenport, IA to Ottumwa, IA - Mon thru Sat - Turn
414 - Kansas City, MO to Chillicothe, MO - Mon thru Sat - Turn
416 - Toledo, OH to Flat Rock, MI to Toledo, OH - Daily - Turn
417 - Battle Creek, MI to Kalamazoo, MI - Mon thru Fri - Turn
418 - Pontiac, MI to Lake Orion, MI - Daily - Turn
420 - Chicago, IL to Wellsboro, IN - Daily - Turn
422 - Pontiac, MI to Eastpointe, MI to Pontiac, MI - Turn - Lumber Local

500 Series Trackage Rights Trains

500 - Chicago, IL to Montreal, QC - Daily(CN) - Intermodal
501 - Montreal, QC to Chicago, IL - Daily(CN) - Intermodal
502 - Chicago, IL to Toronto, ON - Daily(CN) - Manifest
503 - Toronto, ON to Chicago, IL - Daily(CN) - Manifest
504 - Chicago, IL to Toronto, ON - Daily(CN) - Manifest
505 - Toronto, ON to Chicago, IL - Daily(CN) - Manifest
506 - Chicago, IL to ??? - As Needed(Oil)
507 - ??? to Chicago, IL - As Needed(Oil)
508 - Chicago, IL to ??? - As Needed(Oil)
509 - ??? to Chicago, IL - As Needed(Oil)

600 Series Coal

600 - Chicago, IL to Bay City, MI - As Needed
601 - Bay City, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
602 - Chicago, IL to Lansing, MI - As Needed
603 - Lansing, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
604 - Chicago, IL to Monroe, MI - As Needed
605 - Monroe, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
606 - Chicago, IL to Erie, MI - As Needed
607 - Erie, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
608 - Chicago, IL to Lansing, MI - As Needed
609 - Lansing, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed
610 - Chicago, IL to Port Huron, MI - As Needed
611 - Port Huron, MI to Chicago, IL - As Needed

700 Series Grain/Steel/TankTrain

700 - Auburn, MI to Toledo, OH - As Needed - Grain
701 - Toledo, OH to Auburn, MI - As Needed - Grain
702 - Gary, IN to Detroit, MI - As Needed - Steel
703 - Detroit, MI to Gary, IN - As Needed - Steel
704 - Toledo, OH to Lapeer, MI - As Needed - Grain
705 - Lapeer, MI to Toledo, OH - As Needed - Grain
707 - Sarnia, ON to Bay City, MI - As Needed - TankTrain
708 - Bay City, MI to Sarnia, ON - As Needed - TankTrain

800 Series Work Trains

900 Series Passenger

900 - Chicago, IL to Port Huron, MI - Daily - Amtrak
901 - Port Huron, MI to Chicago, IL - Daily - Amtrak
902 - Chicago, IL to Pontiac, MI - Daily - Amtrak
903 - Pontiac, MI to Chicago, IL - Daily - Amtrak
904 - Chicago, IL to Pontiac, MI - Daily - Amtrak
905 - Pontiac, MI to Chicago, IL - Daily - Amtrak
906 - Chicago, IL to Pontiac, MI - Daily - Amtrak
907 - Pontiac, MI to Chicago, IL - Daily - Amtrak

[atrainguy60]

Train Updates-

103 no longer runs daily, and now will run as needed as an empty autorack train on it's original routing. 102 will continue daily, taking loaded autoracks from Flint and Flat Rock to Toledo, via Diann Jct.

Also, due to the swelling business on CN's two intermodals(500 and 501), CN will be adding another pair of intermodals, running between Chicago and Toronto. These will be numbered 502 and 503, with the rest of their GTW train numbers being bumped. These trains will run as 510 and 511 on GTW. They start May 1st.

[AARR]

When will you post your engine roster and yard assignments

[atrainguy60]

When will you post your engine roster and yard assignments

I'm not very familiar with the original GTW roster, so I'm gonna try base it off the GT Blue roster thread. It may be a bit rough...

[atrainguy60]

Roster:

SD70ACes:

100-109

GP9Rs:

4600, 4601, 4602, 4603, 4604, 4605, 4606, 4607, 4608, 4609, 4610, 4611, 4614, 4615, 4616, 4617, 4618, 4619, 4620, 4621, 4622, 4623, 4624, 4625, 4626, 4627, 4628, 4629, 4630, 4631, 4632, 4633, 4634, 4635

GP38-2s:

4900-4935
5800-5840

GP40-2:

6420

SD40-2:

5936-5937