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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby atrainguy60 » Wed May 09, 2012 8:25 pm

Ahh, I didn't think about the destination part of it.
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby Saturnalia » Wed May 09, 2012 8:26 pm

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atrainguy60 wrote:That's interesting, I didn't know Oxford was once like that. As for your railroad, you could just say that some companies decided to put some of their large gravel pits in Oxford, and that your railroad will have spurs into it.

It needs a destination that makes sense. The one I play around with is a gravel movement from Oxford to Romeo via ex-GTW Cass City sub, Pontiac Beltline, and Romeo Sub. Another possible movement would be Oxford to Jackson via Cass City Sub, Pontiac Beltline, and Jackson Sub. There is a little reality to both movements but also some liberty's on my part. I may have to give both some more thought.

I see those as being more like the windmill trains.....same origin, totally different destinations :wink: . Thats how MQT does the Alpena stuff....we bring it to Chicago or Toledo, then whoever can get it where Lafarge/Specification wants it gets it....we also use their waste as track ballast....I'd be happy to sell you some :wink:
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby AARR » Thu May 10, 2012 11:51 am

MQT3001 wrote:I see those as being more like the windmill trains.....same origin, totally different destinations :wink: . Thats how MQT does the Alpena stuff....we bring it to Chicago or Toledo, then whoever can get it where Lafarge/Specification wants it gets it....we also use their waste as track ballast....I'd be happy to sell you some :wink:

That is a good suggestion MQT. Only problem is its a limited move. I need something that can provide years of traffic to sustain the tracks otherwise they can simply use HESR's tracks for the one time move of windmills and bypass me all together.

I've considered gravel from Oxford into the thumb but Wallace Stone does that more economically.

Ive also considered gravel from Oxford to Romeo and Jackson via Air Line which has some merit...
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby Saturnalia » Thu May 10, 2012 4:18 pm

AARR wrote:
MQT3001 wrote:I see those as being more like the windmill trains.....same origin, totally different destinations :wink: . Thats how MQT does the Alpena stuff....we bring it to Chicago or Toledo, then whoever can get it where Lafarge/Specification wants it gets it....we also use their waste as track ballast....I'd be happy to sell you some :wink:

That is a good suggestion MQT. Only problem is its a limited move. I need something that can provide years of traffic to sustain the tracks otherwise they can simply use HESR's tracks for the one time move of windmills and bypass me all together.

I've considered gravel from Oxford into the thumb but Wallace Stone does that more economically.

Ive also considered gravel from Oxford to Romeo and Jackson via Air Line which has some merit...

Limited, but with gravel, you can only ship in summer for starters. You could also dream up a large processing plant somewhere----even out-of-state......some of our specification stuff goes to a Texas Concrete plant....1 train per week usually
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby atrainguy60 » Thu May 10, 2012 6:23 pm

#30 and #41 leading 20 cars in Oxford SB. Two loaded grain cars from Millington interchange, two empty box cars from the Lapeer Sewage Plant, a loaded box car from Gestamp in Lapeer, 4 empty covered hoppers from the plastic company in Lapeer, an empty tanker car from an industry just south of the plastic company, one loaded box car from Graphic Machining in Metamora, two loaded gondola's from the scrap yard in Ortonville, two 86 foot loaded box cars from the auto parts factory in Flint, a loaded refrigerated box car from Del Monte in Flint, and an four loaded autoracks from the autoracks from the GM plant in Flint.
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby atrainguy60 » Thu May 10, 2012 6:39 pm

#60 and #63 going WB in Burton with 17 cars. 9 empty autoracks for GM, 5 loaded 86 foot box cars for GM, a empty box car for the auto parts factory, and two empty boxcars for Del Monte.
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby atrainguy60 » Thu May 10, 2012 6:41 pm

A new large grain elevator was recently finished being built just southeast of Millington. There is a loop track around it, and unit grain trains will occasionally originate there.
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby AARR » Thu May 10, 2012 7:42 pm

MQT3001 wrote:Limited, but with gravel, you can only ship in summer for starters. You could also dream up a large processing plant somewhere----even out-of-state......some of our specification stuff goes to a Texas Concrete plant....1 train per week usually

In MI aggregates are usually shipped around 39 weeks of the year. They start around April and end around December as long as the weather permits.

I try to create scenario's that make sense. Gravel traveling more than a couple hundred miles is very rare if it occurs at all because it is common and within trucking distance of most destinations.

For example. LSRC does not make a lot of money on the limestone they move from Alpena because it is a short haul and they have to price it to compete with trucking and against other aggregate operations in OH and IL.
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby atrainguy60 » Thu May 10, 2012 10:18 pm

The paint scheme for the G&O is black all over the train with a yellow horizontal stripe down side of the locomotive from the cab to the rear. The nose and rear are covered with black and yellow diagonal stripes. On the horizontal stripe is the name in black lettering "Genesee and Oakland".
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby Saturnalia » Fri May 11, 2012 9:34 pm

atrainguy60 wrote:The paint scheme for the G&O is black all over the train with a yellow horizontal stripe down side of the locomotive from the cab to the rear. The nose and rear are covered with black and yellow diagonal stripes. On the horizontal stripe is the name in black lettering "Genesee and Oakland".

hmmmm....what was your inspiration? I guess NKP Heritage Unit :wink:
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby atrainguy60 » Fri May 11, 2012 9:49 pm

I was actually inspired by the Indiana and Northeastern paint scheme, but now that you mention it, it is a lot like the NKP.
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby atrainguy60 » Fri May 11, 2012 10:20 pm

The first grain train from Millington is preparing to go south to Sterling Heights. Power is #40, #41, and #47.
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby conrailman75 » Sat May 12, 2012 2:38 pm

atrainguy60 wrote:I was actually inspired by the Indiana and Northeastern paint scheme, but now that you mention it, it is a lot like the NKP.


That's because the guy who designed INE's paint scheme is a NKP fan :mrgreen:
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby atrainguy60 » Sun May 13, 2012 10:40 pm

The next grain train from Millington should be either tomorrow or Tuesday. Train 101 is just now arriving in Flint with 6 loaded 86 foot box cars for the auto parts factory, 2 empty box cars for Del Monte, 8 loaded auto parts box cars for GM, and 3 empty autoracks also for GM.
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby atrainguy60 » Mon May 14, 2012 6:13 pm

List of train departure times:

#100 leaves Sterling Heights at 8:00am
#101 leaves Flint at noon
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby atrainguy60 » Mon May 14, 2012 6:15 pm

MQT, don't you have a local or something that could pick up/drop off cars in Flint at the G&O interchange track?
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby Ypsi » Mon May 14, 2012 6:21 pm

atrainguy60 wrote:List of train departure times:

#100 leaves Sterling Heights at 8:00am
#101 leaves Flint at noon

Is this it? :)
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby atrainguy60 » Mon May 14, 2012 6:45 pm

Lol, yes, that's it.
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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby AARR » Mon May 14, 2012 7:04 pm

YpsiAmtrakBoy wrote:
atrainguy60 wrote:List of train departure times:

#100 leaves Sterling Heights at 8:00am
#101 leaves Flint at noon

Is this it? :)

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Re: G&O Railroad

Unread postby Saturnalia » Mon May 14, 2012 8:05 pm

atrainguy60 wrote:MQT, don't you have a local or something that could pick up/drop off cars in Flint at the G&O interchange track?

Yep....Flint Local
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