CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby Saturnalia » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:27 pm

trnwatcher wrote:From the field.....CSX is combining 2- N800's in Chicago into 1 train. 14,000 feet over 36,000 tons 1052 axles. 4 locos and will drop the rear section at Grand Junction and the head end will continue to West Olive.

Any idea on when they might get moving?
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby K1NGxBONDx007 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:59 pm

Q326-25 @3:56PM passed Riverside MP CG80.1 with CSX #’s 5269 and 3051 leading and 98 cars
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby trnwatcher » Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:27 pm

Saturnalia wrote:
trnwatcher wrote:From the field.....CSX is combining 2- N800's in Chicago into 1 train. 14,000 feet over 36,000 tons 1052 axles. 4 locos and will drop the rear section at Grand Junction and the head end will continue to West Olive.

Any idea on when they might get moving?

Crew is still awaiting orders at Barr. One train is at 51st St and the other at 71St St. Tehy will have to put them together before proceeding east. No one even knows is NS has agreed to take a train this long. This could be a huge CSX wet dream in the works.....wait and see. It's How Tomorrow Moves!
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby Saturnalia » Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:49 pm

K1NGxBONDx007 wrote:Q326-25 @3:56PM passed Riverside MP CG80.1 with CSX #’s 5269 and 3051 leading and 98 cars

Currently in a holding pattern awaiting MOW near Gross. 16:49 EDT

All by Bangor at 17:47 EDT
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby Tom49801 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:06 pm

Saturnalia wrote:
K1NGxBONDx007 wrote:Q326-25 @3:56PM passed Riverside MP CG80.1 with CSX #’s 5269 and 3051 leading and 98 cars

Currently in a holding pattern awaiting MOW near Gross. 16:49 EDT

All by Bangor at 17:47 EDT


On the cam at the Division Street crossing mp CG60.93 @ 5:43:22pm. He was stopped at the east end of Gross siding mp CG61.3 & got the ok thru the work zone @ 5:41pm. (He was reported by the DD at mp CG66.2 @ 4:24pm with 404 axles & 5,353 feet long).

Reported by the DD at mp CG19.1 @ 7:28pm with 404 axles & 5,254 feet long.
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby Saturnalia » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:14 pm

CSX’s 36,000 ton, 2.5 mile long N800 should be underway from Chicago soon. Too bad it’s so late in the evening. Crew expires at 01:45 ET
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby LansingRailFan » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:30 pm

Saturnalia wrote:CSX’s 36,000 ton, 2.5 mile long N800 should be underway from Chicago soon. Too bad it’s so late in the evening. Crew expires at 01:45 ET


Why do they expire and they haven’t left yet?
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby dave989 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:35 pm

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Saturnalia wrote:CSX’s 36,000 ton, 2.5 mile long N800 should be underway from Chicago soon. Too bad it’s so late in the evening. Crew expires at 01:45 ET


Why do they expire and they haven’t left yet?
It probably took awhile to put this monster together. At least it's good weather in case they break a knuckle or two. Plus they probably had to wait and not screw up any evening commuter or higher priority trains?
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby LansingRailFan » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:44 pm

dave989 wrote:
LansingRailFan wrote:
Saturnalia wrote:CSX’s 36,000 ton, 2.5 mile long N800 should be underway from Chicago soon. Too bad it’s so late in the evening. Crew expires at 01:45 ET


Why do they expire and they haven’t left yet?
It probably took awhile to put this monster together. At least it's good weather in case they break a knuckle or two. Plus they probably had to wait and not screw up any evening commuter or higher priority trains?


Oh ok. Thanks for the answer. How much time do they get on a shift until they expire?
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby SD80MAC » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:44 pm

LansingRailFan wrote:
Saturnalia wrote:CSX’s 36,000 ton, 2.5 mile long N800 should be underway from Chicago soon. Too bad it’s so late in the evening. Crew expires at 01:45 ET


Why do they expire and they haven’t left yet?

Because the crew went on duty at 1:45 pm.
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby Tom49801 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:50 pm

dave989 wrote:
LansingRailFan wrote:
Saturnalia wrote:CSX’s 36,000 ton, 2.5 mile long N800 should be underway from Chicago soon. Too bad it’s so late in the evening. Crew expires at 01:45 ET


Why do they expire and they haven’t left yet?
It probably took awhile to put this monster together. At least it's good weather in case they break a knuckle or two. Plus they probably had to wait and not screw up any evening commuter or higher priority trains?

The crews are limited, by federal law, to 10 hours on duty time & that clock starts when they report for duty. There is usually a safety job briefing & other paperwork (bulletin orders) & then prepping their train for departure. From an earlier post, the coal cars are in 2 different locations & need to be put together (probably 130 cars at each location), air test, brake tests, programming their PTC & setting the EOT unit. It all adds up, time wise, before they actually depart for their trip.
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby LansingRailFan » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:52 pm

Tom49801 wrote:
Why do they expire and they haven’t left yet?
It probably took awhile to put this monster together. At least it's good weather in case they break a knuckle or two. Plus they probably had to wait and not screw up any evening commuter or higher priority trains?

The crews are limited, by federal law, to 10 hours on duty time & that clock starts when they report for duty. There is usually & safety job briefing & other paperwork (bulletin orders) & then prepping their train for departure. From an earlier post, the coal cars are in 2 different locations & need to be put together (probably 130 cars at each location), air test, brake tests, programming their PTC & setting the EOT unit. It all adds up, time wise, before they actually depart for their trip.[/quote]

Cool thanks. I really don’t know how long all of that would take but can see it takes quite a while, especially in a higher traffic area like Chicago. Thanks for the answer!
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby Saturnalia » Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:36 pm

The limit is actually 12 hours on duty, not 10.
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby Tom49801 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:02 pm

Saturnalia wrote:The limit is actually 12 hours on duty, not 10.

Hmmm...ok that differs from Amtrak NEC, it was 12 hours for me in the signals department with 8 off which was then moved up to 10 hours rest period for Hours of Service work & 10 hours on duty for the train engineers. If we were digging ditches for signal cables or snow removal you could work till ya dropped but not beyond 16 hours because double time pay kicks in. If you were doing non-live signal circuit work (ditches, etc) you couldn't even take a single meter reading on any live vital circuits because then your entire tour would become "hours of service" even though the past 12 hours were "non-hours of service" work. Some of our equipment was considered "non-vital" such as the electronic signal indication equipment that reports the signal block status train/no train (i.e the GRS brand analog F2 transmitters & receivers or the DupLIne brand digital indication circuits). Even the Remote Terminal Units (RTU) that had replaced the human tower operators & respond to the sent commands from our CETC command centers were considered as being non-vital equipment. I was on snow duty one time & our only function was to keep the snow swept out of the switch points at an Interlocking, we had already passed the 12 hour mark when the then tower operator had set the wrong route & asked us to "take the route out of time" so he didn't have to run the clock down & delay the train. We had to refuse his request because that would have counted as being "vital circuit work" & then would have automatically made all of our previous hours of "non-hours of service work" now count as hours of service & a violation with fines I would have had to pay - not the company.
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby SD80MAC » Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:29 pm

T&E crews can have 12 hours on duty max, anything after that is considered limbo time in which train service cannot be performed. After being on duty for 12 hours or less, they are entitled to 10 hours of undisturbed rest. If they are on duty for more than 12 hours, they get 10 hours plus however much extra time they were on duty over 12 hours.
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby Tom49801 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:39 pm

D801-24 @ 10:32pm westward at Bangor's Center Street crossing mp CG60.35 with CSX engines #3266 + #3209 lite. Don't know where they're headed & wondering if they may be meeting the N801 doubled up coal train.
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby Saturnalia » Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:39 pm

That doubled-up coal train is on the move approaching Chesterton at 22:38 EDT. He's just going by the Millers Siding at CP 490

Tom49801 wrote:D801-24 @ 10:32pm westward at Bangor's Center Street crossing mp CG60.35 with CSX engines #3266 + #3209 lite. Don't know where they're headed & wondering if they may be meeting the N801 doubled up coal train.


I bet they're going to power the empty coal consist that is still sitting on Main 1 between Riverside and Benton Harbor.
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby Tom49801 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:59 pm

Saturnalia wrote:That doubled-up coal train is on the move approaching Chesterton at 22:38 EDT. He's just going by the Millers Siding at CP 490

Tom49801 wrote:D801-24 @ 10:32pm westward at Bangor's Center Street crossing mp CG60.35 with CSX engines #3266 + #3209 lite. Don't know where they're headed & wondering if they may be meeting the N801 doubled up coal train.


I bet they're going to power the empty coal consist that is still sitting on Main 1 between Riverside and Benton Harbor.


From the Dispatcher @ 11:36pm: D801-24 is to meet the N801-19 double coal train (4 engines & 260 cars). N801-19 is to set off 1/2 of his train at New Buffalo mp CG113.9 & the other 1/2 will be taken over by D801-24. Sounded like D801-24 will be meeting N801-19 at Sawyer, but may change since the N801 crew's time runs out at 01:45am
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby K1NGxBONDx007 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:32 am

Q327-26 passed Bangor’s Monroe St crossing MP CG60.72 @7:06AM. Also reported clear both ends of Kirk @7:28AM. He has CSX #’s 3051 and 5269 leading
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Re: CSX Train Location Updates: June, 2020.

Unread postby Tom49801 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:35 am

K1NGxBONDx007 wrote:Q327-26 passed Bangor’s Monroe St crossing MP CG60.72 @7:06AM. Also reported clear both ends of Kirk @7:28AM. He has CSX #’s 3051 and 5269 leading

Q327-26 @ 08:11am cleared the St Joseph Bridge. He had 163 cars.

D801-24 @ 03:51:52am Bangor mp CG60.7 with BNSF engines #9104 + 1 & 130 loaded coal cars & the 2 CSX pushers #3209 + #3266. This was 1/2 of the N801-19 and ​the other half was tied down in Sawyer siding mp 104.6

N800-24 @ 04:27am/04:54am at Bangor mp CG60.7 with BNSF engine #5927 leading (from the radio archives). He tied down in Wells siding mp CG43.3 (DD reports were stepped on).
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