Amtrak P370-18 @ 21:48:11 am EB on Bangor's Live Cam Monroe St crossing mp CG 60.72 with 4 passengers off at the station mp CG 60.5; IDTX engine #4628 & 4 cars (3 Horizons + AmCafe).
Looking at the Bangor cam, it looks like the additional Horizon is a cafe/business class car (same as the Amfleet cafe/business car already in the consist). Did anyone else get a good enough view to confirm this?
If they indeed have two cafe cars in the train, does anyone know why? I am suspecting they needed additional business class seating so they just added another cafe car. I travelled with a party of 3 on Saturday and we were bumped from Business to Coach. We bought our tickets back when P370/371 was running with Superliners. The Supers have 28 business class seats, while the Amfleets have 14 I think. I assume the equipment change was why we were downgraded.
Amtrak P370-18 @ 21:48:11 am EB on Bangor's Live Cam Monroe St crossing mp CG 60.72 with 4 passengers off at the station mp CG 60.5; IDTX engine #4628 & 4 cars (3 Horizons + AmCafe).
Looking at the Bangor cam, it looks like the additional Horizon is a cafe/business class car (same as the Amfleet cafe/business car already in the consist). Did anyone else get a good enough view to confirm this?
It was hard to tell both day and night what was the 4th car was. You think it was another AmCafe car?
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Y197-19 @ 10:12 getting permission to depart Lamar with CSX #6552 to work at PCA
L301-19 @ 10:18 had Job Briefing with RN Dispatcher in Grand Rapids, MI with CSX #4059 and 38 cars (15 loads and 23 empties), 720 tons, and 2000+ ft long. He has work at 112th Waverly Yard.
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L303-19 @ 12:18 had Job Briefing with RN Dispatcher in Grand Rapids, MI with CSX #5265 + CSX #358 with 29 cars (13 loads and 16 empties), 2,305 tons, and 1,946 ft long. He has work in Lansing with set offs some cars. At this time, they are still building their train and will depart after getting a signal from Tower and Yardmaster.
L303-19 @ 12:50 EB reported at Plaster Creek
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L301-19 @ 13:19:49 WB Bangor’s Live Cam Monroe St crossing mp 60.72 with CSX #4059 LHF (long hood forward) and 19 cars (11 loaded boulder cars in the consist, 2 loaded lumber center beams). He is heading to Hartford mp 68.7 and Sawyer mp 105.2. Also likely to meet C800-19 or M326-19 along the way.
L303-19 @ 1:48 EB reported at Elmdale; CSX #5265 + CSX #358 with 29 cars (13 loads and 16 empties), 2,305 tons, and 1,946 ft long.
L303-19 @ 1:52 EB reported at mp 127.
L303-19 @ 1:55 EB reported at DD mp 126.3 Clarksville, MI at 128 axles
Z151-19 @ 1:57 EB reported slow clear at Plaster Creek.
Z151-19 @ 2:18 NB reported at Fuller Junction
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Z627-19 @ 2:24 reported 33 cars with a length of 1,483 ft long to the Dispatcher at 112th Waverly Yard; MMR #2019 + MMR #2070? + 33 cars
L303-19 @ 2:32 EB reported at DD mp 104.3 Mulliken MI at 128 axles; CSX #5265 + CSX #358 with 29 cars (13 loads and 16 empties), 2,305 tons, and 1,946 ft long.
C800-XX or M326-19 has not been reported at this time.
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Amtrak P370-18 @ 21:48:11 am EB on Bangor's Live Cam Monroe St crossing mp CG 60.72 with 4 passengers off at the station mp CG 60.5; IDTX engine #4628 & 4 cars (3 Horizons + AmCafe).
Looking at the Bangor cam, it looks like the additional Horizon is a cafe/business class car (same as the Amfleet cafe/business car already in the consist). Did anyone else get a good enough view to confirm this?
It was hard to tell both day and night what was the 4th car was. You think it was another AmCafe car?
When it cleared the camera in Bangor, it looked like white tabletops shining through the windows on the back half.
L301-19 @ 3:00 WB reported Hartford mp 68.7 and heading to Sawyer mp 105.2; CSX #4059 leading + xx cars
L301-19 @ 3:21 WB reported at St Joseph Bridge and Bridge Tender reported "flash" as L301 cleared the bridge.
L301-19 @ 3:28 WB reported at DD mp 91.9 St Joseph, MI at 82 axles; CSX #4059 + 19 cars. They are heading to Sawyer mp 105.2. They might have work at Standale Lumber in Grandville mp 6.5 on the way EB.
Last edited by Andy24 on Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:32 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Looking at the Bangor cam, it looks like the additional Horizon is a cafe/business class car (same as the Amfleet cafe/business car already in the consist). Did anyone else get a good enough view to confirm this?
It was hard to tell both day and night what was the 4th car was. You think it was another AmCafe car?
When it cleared the camera in Bangor, it looked like white tabletops shining through the windows on the back half.
Yes, the rear Horizon was definitely a half Business Class half Cafe car, with the business class end adjoining the BC end of the Amcafe in front of it. If Chicago assembles the train right, the cafe tables should be closest to the coaches, then business class behind. I imagine it is correct that this fills out the sold capacity for business class around the Holidays. I’ve seen the two cafe car = more/the right amount of business class used on other trains, notably the Blue Water, many times before. Remember the old days when Amfleets table cars were “cafe” or “Amcafe” and the Horizon table cars were “dinette?” (And Business Class was “Custom Class???”)
I don’t think Ive ever been on a Superliner with Business Class configuration. Is the BC cabin on a lower level? Or are there partitions on the upper level somewhere to divide up one car?
