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Pan Am RR for sale

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:32 pm
by penn central
Thank goodness i got out to Massachusetts in 2014 and again in 2016 to railfan the Pan Am from Millers Falls Massachusetts the interchange with the New England Central and XO tower in Mechanicville NY there's a lot of speculation as to who the buyer will be it's gonna be interesting.

Re: Pan Am RR for sale

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:19 pm
by AARR
I hope they change the name. IMO worst name for a railroad ever.

Re: Pan Am RR for sale

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:22 pm
by DaveO
AARR wrote:I hope they change the name. IMO worst name for a railroad ever.
Well the rich owner bought the Pan Am name and if he didn't use it, that could cause the trademark protection to be lost.
Let us not forget his creation of the Springfield Terminal in order to bust the unions.

Re: Pan Am RR for sale

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:52 am
by GTW6401
Guilford had really nothing to do with the railroads either. Ive heard Mellon named it after his hometown in Connecticut.

Re: Pan Am RR for sale

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:29 pm
by MQT1223
I've heard the whole reason from the change to Guilford to Pan Am was basically a rebranding scheme since the Guilford name had kinda taken on a negative reputation.

Needless to say I think it was just putting makeup on a pig.

Re: Pan Am RR for sale

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:50 pm
by LansingRailFan
MQT1223 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:29 pm
I've heard the whole reason from the change to Guilford to Pan Am was basically a rebranding scheme since the Guilford name had kinda taken on a negative reputation.

Needless to say I think it was just putting makeup on a pig.
Lipstick on a pig. Lipstick.

Re: Pan Am RR for sale

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:47 am
by penn central
Interesting development in the last couple days. A freshly painted GP40-2W number 507 was released from the shop in Guilford Rail System paint everyone seems baffled as to what's going on. I like it myself i would go out there but with this COVID 19 stuff i don't know if that would be a good idea.

Re: Pan Am RR for sale

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:25 pm
by MQT1223
penn central wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:47 am
Interesting development in the last couple days. A freshly painted GP40-2W number 507 was released from the shop in Guilford Rail System paint everyone seems baffled as to what's going on. I like it myself i would go out there but with this COVID 19 stuff i don't know if that would be a good idea.
I believe its similar to what Pan Am did a few years ago with their Heritage GP9's that they later sold off. To keep ownership and reporting marks they had to apply it in a certain sense. I bet no one thought they'd ever see a freshly painted Guilford unit. I wonder if it has Springfield Terminal reporting marks.

Re: Pan Am RR for sale

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:05 am
by DaveO
MQT1223 wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:25 pm
penn central wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:47 am
Interesting development in the last couple days. A freshly painted GP40-2W number 507 was released from the shop in Guilford Rail System paint everyone seems baffled as to what's going on. I like it myself i would go out there but with this COVID 19 stuff i don't know if that would be a good idea.
I believe its similar to what Pan Am did a few years ago with their Heritage GP9's that they later sold off. To keep ownership and reporting marks they had to apply it in a certain sense. I bet no one thought they'd ever see a freshly painted Guilford unit. I wonder if it has Springfield Terminal reporting marks.
MEC reporting mark

Re: Pan Am RR for sale

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:55 pm
by MQT1223
I saw pictures this morning. It is also my understanding that the Guilford, MEC, ST, and B&M side of the railroad are the aspects for sale and that the Pan Am name itself is not... wonder if this has anything to do with it. I'm also under the impression that this unit is commemorating someone, as it has what looks like initials on it.

Re: Pan Am RR for sale

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:04 pm
by redcrumbox
Pan Am has seen the writing on the wall. The rail industry is terrible at thinking ahead at times and the increasingly rate of ageing boxcars has unfortunately outpaced the anemic investment in new boxcars. Half of the current fleet of boxcars is plate F with the other half (pre 90's) set on retirement within the next ten years. Which PSR railroads are inclined to build new boxcars in a declining paper industry?

Re: Pan Am RR for sale

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:32 pm
by David Lang
According to Trains Magazine, CN and CP may be interested in the Pan AM because either one would then gain access to Boston. Access to Boston would provide direct service from there into Canada and west to Chicago. Would this be enough for genuine interest from either railroad? Curious about everyone's thoughts. Thanks.

David Lang

Re: Pan Am RR for sale

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:18 pm
by GTW6401
Boston has very few railroad served industries. CSX left the city and turned whatever customers they had over to Pan Am. You need to get past Worcester or Ayer to see any real non-commuter service in Mass.