NS SD70 Series Units All Stored In Roanoke, VA

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NS SD70 Series Units All Stored In Roanoke, VA

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So I am new to this website, I wanted to start off with something I've been thinking about for the longest time. Why are all of Norfolk Southern's SD70's, SD70M's, and SD70M-2's stored in Roanoke Yard? I remember seeing these all the time, but around 2018, they started disappearing out of nowhere. If anyone knows why or how long these locomotives are going to be stored, that would be great.
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Re: NS SD70 Series Units All Stored In Roanoke, VA

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The SD70s are/were being rebuilt in SD70ACCs. The former Conrail SD70s are now for sale according to NS. The SD70Ms and most of the SD70M-2s are in storage, along with many Dash 9s, because they are not currently needed. There was also talk of rebuilding the SD70Ms into SD70ACCs as well, but I haven't heard any more about that.
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Re: NS SD70 Series Units All Stored In Roanoke, VA

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NS engines listed for sale.

EMD SD70M units 2581-2594, 2596-2648, 2797-2799; and SD70M-2 units 2649-2778

EMD SD75M's 2800-2806 and GE/NS Dash 8.5-40CW rebuilds 8500-8513

The 80 remaining C40-8Ws are also being sold to Progress Rail.

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SO what happened to their business where all these locomotives are now no longer needed? Are new ones coming on line? Or did their customer base shrink? Or they doing that very long train thing where there will be less trains to cover the same customer base? That is a lot over units to just dump unless something fundamental is in progress. Also read they have layed off a bunch of folks at Altoona

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NS had more variety on its motive power roster compared to any other Class 1. You can blame it on PSR, but that translates into a lot of extra parts inventory. NS's operating philosophy in the past has also lent itself more to shorter, more frequent trains compared to likes of CSX, UP etc. NS has changed the operating plan and is running less-frequent, longer trains. This has greatly reduced the need for locomotives. The oldest, oddball, most worn out and least reliable units have been or are being culled from the roster.

When all is said and done, the NS will basically be down to the following:
EMD SD70ACC
EMD SD70ACe
EMD SD70ACU
EMD SD60E
EMD SD40E
EMD SD40-2
EMD GP60
EMD GP59E
EMD GP40-2
EMD GP38-2
(maybe a handful of EMD MP15s?)
(they also have some rebuilt Geeps and road slugs that I'm not as familiar with)
GE ET44AC
GE ES44AC
GE ES44DC
GE C44-9W
GE AC44C6M

This greatly simplifies their roster from the likes of oddballs like the SD80MACs, standard cab SD70s, the worn out SD70Ms, and the notoriously loud and uncomfortable SD70M-2s. The oldest units like the SD60s, C40-8Ws and most of the second hand SD40-2s they bought in the last decade are being disposed of as well. I believe the plan is to convert all or most of their 1,000+ unit fleet of Dash 9s into AC44C6Ms as well. While I like motive power variety as much as anyone else, a more streamlined fleet makes sense both in having to stock a smaller variety of parts and somewhat simplifies mechanical training and familiarization as well.
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