New Changes to Road Freights in Other States
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New Changes to Road Freights in Other States
Per Deshler Chat, sounds like more changes are happening with other main road freights.
My question or comment is, who is handling all of the traffic at Garrett to Barr / Barr to Garrett now? Would it be a local between the 2 yards? Or M567-M569 handles the Garrett to Barr traffic?Average railfan reporter on Grand Rapids Sub, Plymouth Sub, and Area Short Lines Railroads.
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Re: New Changes to Road Freights in Other States
A better question is what train is taking all of the 368/369 traffic to and from Clearing.
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Re: New Changes to Road Freights in Other States
Enlighten us, then.
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Re: New Changes to Road Freights in Other States
M370 is the pair to 369, and is still running out of the BRC. M367 is the pair to 368.
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Re: New Changes to Road Freights in Other States
Thank you.
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Re: New Changes to Road Freights in Other States
I’m quite frankly fascinated with Florida’s changes, there’s a lot of them, one is definitely a head scratcher.
M457- Originally Waycross to Taft (Orlando) is now Baldwin to Taft, combined with M441 (more on that later).
M456 has been re-instated, Taft to Baldwin, traffic originally went to Baldwin on M208 then was swapped onto other trains. But business must be back enough to warrant a whole ‘nother road freight. M208 will now be a solid autorack train after this change.
M457 and M441 (originally Waycross to Yeomam Yard in Tampa) are combined from Waycross to Baldwin. 441 will originate out of Baldwin for Tampa.
Here’s where it gets interesting:
Not surprisingly, M452 and M453 are now scaled back as a Winston to Waycross train pair. Which means, for god knows how many times at this point, M603 and M604 are abolished from Winston - Waycross. That train pair for some reason can never seem to be run consistently, they have been abolished and reinstated over half a dozen times within the last 5-10 years. This may be the final nail in the coffin. Since 452/453 normally had always ran to or left Miami with under 5k feet of train, and they pick up and drop off traffic in Winston, 452 has plenty of room for 604’s cut. BUT 603 was consistently running upwards of 8-10k feet before it was abolished. If 453 gets too big, I think they may bring just 603 back and keep 604’s traffic on the 452.
It’s honestly really intriguing with these changes and will be interesting to see any new ones.
M457- Originally Waycross to Taft (Orlando) is now Baldwin to Taft, combined with M441 (more on that later).
M456 has been re-instated, Taft to Baldwin, traffic originally went to Baldwin on M208 then was swapped onto other trains. But business must be back enough to warrant a whole ‘nother road freight. M208 will now be a solid autorack train after this change.
M457 and M441 (originally Waycross to Yeomam Yard in Tampa) are combined from Waycross to Baldwin. 441 will originate out of Baldwin for Tampa.
Here’s where it gets interesting:
Not surprisingly, M452 and M453 are now scaled back as a Winston to Waycross train pair. Which means, for god knows how many times at this point, M603 and M604 are abolished from Winston - Waycross. That train pair for some reason can never seem to be run consistently, they have been abolished and reinstated over half a dozen times within the last 5-10 years. This may be the final nail in the coffin. Since 452/453 normally had always ran to or left Miami with under 5k feet of train, and they pick up and drop off traffic in Winston, 452 has plenty of room for 604’s cut. BUT 603 was consistently running upwards of 8-10k feet before it was abolished. If 453 gets too big, I think they may bring just 603 back and keep 604’s traffic on the 452.
It’s honestly really intriguing with these changes and will be interesting to see any new ones.
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Re: New Changes to Road Freights in Other States
I am not sure how recent this change was or was ever changed was:
M209 (Wayne, Mi) to Baldwin Yard, FL
M209 (Wayne, Mi) to Osborn Yard, KY with M211 from Osborn Yard, KY to Baldwin Yard, FL
M209 (Wayne, Mi) to Baldwin Yard, FL
M209 (Wayne, Mi) to Osborn Yard, KY with M211 from Osborn Yard, KY to Baldwin Yard, FL
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Re: New Changes to Road Freights in Other States
Per Facebook post:
New / Reinstated
M204 Louisville, KY - Selkirk, NY (Daily) (I will have to check back on this) Works Cincinnati, OH, Marion, OH, & Buffalo, NY
M508 Cincinnati, OH - Roughmere Yard - Detroit, MI (Daily) Works Walbridge, OH
Changes
M205 Worcester, MA - Louisville, KY Previously terminated at O'Bannon, KY
M211 Louisville, KY - Baldiwn, FL (Daily) Works Birmingham, AL
M280 Dixianna, SC - Louisville, KY (Daily) Previously terminated in Wauhatchie, TN
Works Cayce, SC, New Berry, SC, Greenwood, SC, Lawrenceville, GA, Howell Yard - Atlanta, GA, Cartersville, GA, Wauhatchie, TN, & Smyrna, TN
M281 Louisville, KY - Cayce, SC (Daily) Previously originated in Wauhatchie, TN
Works Smyrna, TN, Wauhatchie, TN, Cartersville, GA, Howell Yard - Atlanta, GA, Lawrenceville, GA, Greenwood, SC, & New Berry, SC
M331 Cumberland, MD - Avon, IN (Daily) Previously Originated in Baltimore Curtis Bay, MD
Works Demmler, PA, New Castle, PA Ohio Junction, OH, & Marion, OH,
M332 Avon, IN - Cumberland, MD (Daily) Previously Terminated in Baltimore, MD Curtis Bay
Works Lordstown, OH, New Castle, PA, Demmler, PA, & Connellsville, PA
M510 Louisville, KY, - Roughmere Yard - Detroit, MI (Daily) Previously Originated in Cincinnati, OH
Works Cincinnati, OH, & Walbridge, OH
Abolished
I156 Bruceton, TN - Avalon ST, TN (UP)
M503 Chicago, IL (BRC) - Nashville, TN
M558 Cincinnati, OH - Lima , OH
M559 Lima, OH - Cincinnati, OH
New / Reinstated
M204 Louisville, KY - Selkirk, NY (Daily) (I will have to check back on this) Works Cincinnati, OH, Marion, OH, & Buffalo, NY
M508 Cincinnati, OH - Roughmere Yard - Detroit, MI (Daily) Works Walbridge, OH
Changes
M205 Worcester, MA - Louisville, KY Previously terminated at O'Bannon, KY
M211 Louisville, KY - Baldiwn, FL (Daily) Works Birmingham, AL
M280 Dixianna, SC - Louisville, KY (Daily) Previously terminated in Wauhatchie, TN
Works Cayce, SC, New Berry, SC, Greenwood, SC, Lawrenceville, GA, Howell Yard - Atlanta, GA, Cartersville, GA, Wauhatchie, TN, & Smyrna, TN
M281 Louisville, KY - Cayce, SC (Daily) Previously originated in Wauhatchie, TN
Works Smyrna, TN, Wauhatchie, TN, Cartersville, GA, Howell Yard - Atlanta, GA, Lawrenceville, GA, Greenwood, SC, & New Berry, SC
M331 Cumberland, MD - Avon, IN (Daily) Previously Originated in Baltimore Curtis Bay, MD
Works Demmler, PA, New Castle, PA Ohio Junction, OH, & Marion, OH,
M332 Avon, IN - Cumberland, MD (Daily) Previously Terminated in Baltimore, MD Curtis Bay
Works Lordstown, OH, New Castle, PA, Demmler, PA, & Connellsville, PA
M510 Louisville, KY, - Roughmere Yard - Detroit, MI (Daily) Previously Originated in Cincinnati, OH
Works Cincinnati, OH, & Walbridge, OH
Abolished
I156 Bruceton, TN - Avalon ST, TN (UP)
M503 Chicago, IL (BRC) - Nashville, TN
M558 Cincinnati, OH - Lima , OH
M559 Lima, OH - Cincinnati, OH
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Re: New Changes to Road Freights in Other States
Looks like some consolidation at Louisville and some reduction in CincyAndy24 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:27 pmM205 Worcester, MA - Louisville, KY Previously terminated at O'Bannon, KY
M211 Louisville, KY - Baldiwn, FL (Daily) Works Birmingham, AL
M280 Dixianna, SC - Louisville, KY (Daily) Previously terminated in Wauhatchie, TN
M281 Louisville, KY - Cayce, SC (Daily) Previously originated in Wauhatchie, TN
M510 Louisville, KY, - Roughmere Yard - Detroit, MI (Daily) Previously Originated in Cincinnati, OH
Abolished
M558 Cincinnati, OH - Lima , OH
M559 Lima, OH - Cincinnati, OH
Re: New Changes to Road Freights in Other States
In Florida...
L792/793 replaced 452/453 past Winston.
L729 and L743 also run to/from Winston. Both work Baldwin and Wildwood.
L792/793 replaced 452/453 past Winston.
L729 and L743 also run to/from Winston. Both work Baldwin and Wildwood.
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Re: New Changes to Road Freights in Other States
I appreciate the updates. It seems like there are so many changes all the time now on these Class 1's. You really wonder who is calling the shots or is it all dictated by Wall Street?!